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Originally Posted by XutvJet
Traction control is a SMALL part of it unless we're talking 700hp+ RWD cars.
The widespread usage of turbos, much improve turbo technology, the common use of AWD in most everything, and significantly better automatics with a ton of torque multiplication and lots of gears to keep the motor in it's powerband is why a majority of the reason why cars are so much quicker to 60 and faster overall. Tire technology and then traction control would be the other minor factors.
We get it, you're in auto industry with a focus on TC systems, but that doesn't mean you're right on this.
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Has little to do with the transmissions.
GR Supra manual puts up numbers that are extremely close to the 2022 automatic. Surely a 6 speed manual is not a recent development. Check the 5-60 times too. The 8 speed transmission shows barely any advantage until we look at the 0-100.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-manual-drive/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...upra-compared/
Or this one with 2 M2 Comps comparing DCT vs 6MT:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-drive-review/
The G cars including Supra are very easy to launch and in general don't spin nearly as easily if you put your foot down like the F8x and earlier. I was directly addressing the OP's ask as to why a G8x RWD is faster than a tuned F8x from a dig. The answer to that is the traction control and tires. S58 actually has more lag than S55. I don't work in automotive but the principles are the same.
Obviously it is not just one factor. There's many that add up. However, when we look at the OPs post asking about 335i RWD and F8x RWD to G8x RWD 0-60 times, traction control and tires are the main factor. He asked about the past 10 years. Ten years ago, the engines were just about the same. N54 was already just about phased out, N55 all over, and S55 about to launch. When I say the same, I mean same DI small turbo high midrange torque.