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      11-29-2022, 02:12 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Mr Friese View Post
I guess I'll be the odd duck that suggests the Civic Si. Not sure that you can find another sub-30ish new car with a back seat and MT that is as much fun.
Is it fun? That 1.5L is a mess, it's slow and really large, without much space inside. A GTI S isn't much more expensive, has 40 more horsepower and 80lb/ft more, it's 16" shorter and doesn't give up much interior space.

It is a lot less sporty, it's got a very smooth ride and certainly feels more civilized than my GTI. But fun wouldn't be a term I'd use for it. Plus the tuning potential of the GTI is huge compared to the Honda.
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