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      11-07-2017, 08:29 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by bradleyland View Post
The mental gymnastics that some people will go through to defend a brand is... Mind boggling

I'm not suggesting we get out our torches and pitchforks, but this is bad. The failure mode for any electronics equipment should not be "fire". Specifically, electrical engineers go to great lengths to prevent fires.

So yeah, it's good to keep a sense of perspective. BMW is doing the right thing here, but this was a mistake. There's no need to jump in and defend this as some kind of expected result of owning an aging car. It's not.

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Agree. Any electrical connector that can cause a fire on its own without tampering is a serious issue. May be a case of bean counters saving a few cents on a tin plated connector design vs. silver plating, crimping vs. soldered connectors, etc. Will cost BMW much more in the recall cost than what they saved with the cheaper connector.
@bradleyland. LOL at your mental gymnastics comment.




First off I would like to know exactly how you can guarantee that the fail safe regarding an electronic component NEVER is fire ?

Second, Do you seriously think that vehicle fires are so uncommon?! You are totally going overboard here.

Indeed , let's keep this in perspective!

While a serious issue indeed, this is certainly not an issue limited to or specific to ,BMW , it affects many manufacturers and many SUPPLIERS of parts for OEM equipment.

Do I even need to utter the word. TAKATA?

Aside from vehicle airbags , there are many components that have led to fires in many different vehicles.

BMW had an issue with this in the X5 years ago and issued like this go back to the Ford Pinto or before.

I've already had a battery cable replaced on my 1M- do you think failures of it wouldn't have resulted in a potential fire risk ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_fire

According to the page above approximately 280,000 ACTUAL vehicle fires occur in a year. I wonder how many of those began due to an electronic component or part like a battery, fan, cruise control module , etc etc.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/engine-...ecalled-fords/

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...374150891.html

Lamborghini and Ferrari models are well known for fire risks particularly in older models.

Take a surf on over to the NHTSA web site and play around and see how many vehicle recalls are due to an eventual fire hazard.


Moral of the story - it's a recall. Check for your model and if it's affected then look for your notice and call your dealer. When fire hazard is a concern you seriously may wish to consider parking your vehicle away from the residence.
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