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      10-07-2014, 01:11 PM   #1
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Since we have over a year before the M2 goes into production, I thought it would be fun to see what everyone's realistic wishes are for the car. While it would be nice to have a 450hp S55 engine, that's not something I'm going to list since we already know BMW have chosen the N55.

In a year's time, we can see how wrong we all were!

I'll go first:
  • 380hp (S55 would be better, but looks like BMW has decided otherwise)
  • engine doesn't fall flat after 6k rpm
  • 3300 .lbs
  • carbon fiber roof, trunk lid, drive shaft, and interior trim
  • full-leather interior including dash, available as an option
  • aggressive stance like 1M
  • LED available as option
  • HUD available as option
  • ~ $55k nearly loaded

For some reason, I really dislike the design of the 2-series interior. E82 just seems so much more clean and less fussy. Hoping that some extra leather bits will help with that.

What do you want to see on the car, realistically?
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      10-07-2014, 01:16 PM   #2
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Since we have over a year before the M2 goes into production, I thought it would be fun to see what everyone's realistic wishes are for the car. While it would be nice to have a 450hp S55 engine, that's not something I'm going to list since we already know BMW have chosen the N55.

In a year's time, we can see how wrong we all were!

I'll go first:
  • 380hp (S55 would be better, but looks like BMW has decided otherwise)
  • engine doesn't fall flat after 6k rpm
  • 3300 .lbs
  • carbon fiber roof, trunk lid, drive shaft, and interior trim
  • full-leather interior including dash, available as an option
  • aggressive stance like 1M
  • LED available as option
  • HUD available as option
  • ~ $55k nearly loaded

For some reason, I really dislike the design of the 2-series interior. E82 just seems so much more clean and less fussy. Hoping that some extra leather bits will help with that.

What do you want to see on the car, realistically?
I like your list, but no way we'll get all that for only $55k.
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      10-07-2014, 01:16 PM   #3
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$55k loaded???

Lets take a step back and rethink this...

If m2 is under or near $50k base price. Who on earth will buy a M235i? No one, unless they discontinue the M235i or drop the price and start making a 235i with less standard options....no way guys
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I'll go first:
  • 380hp (S55 would be better, but looks like BMW has decided otherwise)
  • engine doesn't fall flat after 6k rpm
  • 3300 .lbs
  • carbon fiber roof, trunk lid, drive shaft, and interior trim
  • full-leather interior including dash, available as an option
  • aggressive stance like 1M
  • LED available as option
  • HUD available as option
  • $55k loaded


What do you want to see on the car, realistically?
Your list plus
  • LSD
  • Double Clutch Auto & 6 Speed M options
  • Reasonably priced performance brake option
  • Awesome manual seats with holes for harness (w/harness bar mounting points)
  • Room for some extra rubber up front
  • Decent steering wheel
  • Decent pedals with close spacing
  • Awesome intercooler
  • Striped down interior as base
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      10-07-2014, 01:37 PM   #5
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I like your list, but no way we'll get all that for only $55k.
I'm not including HUD and LED in that $55k just to be clear. I've fluctuated between thinking this car will be mid $50's to low $60's, but question is with what equipment. Enthusiasts pay pretty dearly for performance...you should see all the toys you get on a new C-class for $55k. New C63 is actually going to be a tremendous value.

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$55k loaded???

Lets take a step back and rethink this...

If m2 is under or near $50k base price. Who on earth will buy a M235i? No one, unless they discontinue the M235i or drop the price and start making a 235i with less standard options....no way guys
There is a pricing thread for this discussion, but at first I thought like you, that I would be paying low $60's for this car. And it still might be that expensive with certain options like a LED lights. But then the car starts getting pretty darn close to an M4, which has a nicer interior and other things. Plus the 1M was about $10k more expensive than my 135i.

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Your list plus
...
We already know the car is getting an LSD. Safe to assume we'll get DCT and an M steering wheel like in the M3/4.

We shall see! I'm interested in what other people want on this car. For example, am I the only one that wants full leather?

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      10-07-2014, 01:44 PM   #6
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Well, to be fair you listed pricing as a wishlist
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Honestly, I would be so, so happy with a base price of 50K.

But I'd also be extremely surprised.

A 50K base price is a slight increase over the 1M base price, but I don't think BMW cares about pricing it close to the 1M. I'm sadly starting to think the car will start around 55, and be about the price of an M3 when fully loaded. I was hoping to walk out the door for 55 K also, but I don't know if this will be a bargain M car like the 1M was.

For me, a bargain M car starts at 50 K. Losing hope slowly, though.
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      10-07-2014, 02:56 PM   #8
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Seeing as BMW haven't even "officially" announced the M2 yet, how can we say it a definately getting the N55?

We all know it's coming... I'm just saying that BMW haven't even confirmed the car exists yet.
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      10-07-2014, 03:12 PM   #9
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Seeing as BMW haven't even "officially" announced the M2 yet, how can we say it a definately getting the N55?

We all know it's coming... I'm just saying that BMW haven't even confirmed the car exists yet.
Fair enough, I was just assuming that the 2addicts report was accurate. I think this car deserves a bespoke engine and I'd be willing to pay more for such a car.

The 1M getting the N54 was understandable given the budget/time constraints, but this time they've had years to develop the car.
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      10-07-2014, 04:32 PM   #10
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personally and i'm probably going to be way different from most people on this...

here is what i'd want for a m2 .

i'd think for me, making it an accessible car lighter car for the least cost would be highest priority. i mean why not, you have the m3/m4 if people really want a leather dash, bespoke engine all this special stuff, why not offer something truly accessible and enthusiast oriented and you can do this without really expensive materials,




i'd want this.

360-370hp, n55. hell even 350 would be enough, it doesnt have to be crazy
either a DCT or the 8ZF tuned from the m235i racing as the 'auto' option (honestly the 8ZF programming from the m235i racing as "sport+" given it'd cost almost nothing, would be ok if it made it cost less)
the wider track / suspension directly to the body like the m3/m4 with flared fenders (made from aluminum to save weight). also a aluminum trunklid / hood (cheaper than CF, and still saves a lot of weight)

base no power seats (and it'd be nice if you actually saved money for this) just like a 228i can have (saves ~10 lbs per seat, and the 1M could have this). this would also cost nothing obviously for them to do. you can add back power seats if you want for $

base no moonroof (even if its not CF thats 50 lbs, they should also give you money back for this, so it shoudl be the base car). again if you want one you add $

the m-sport LSD standard (its an M car after all)

some M looking 18" style Rims that look nicer than the m235i ones

alcantera seats as an option. nappa as an option. base sensatech or that sport cloth from the m3/m4

better paint color options.

base price of like $50k. so basically, suspension + wide track, and the base items that save weight that would cost nothing for BMW to do and retuned automatic / slightly higher tune engine. i'm not sure if this is an m2, or maybe really what my idea of what the M235 should have been, but still its my wish list.
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I would definitely order my M2 with full leather if it is an option.It makes the interior look way better in the M3 and M4.


The options I want most would be the same carbon fiber interior trim as the M3 and M4,carbon fiber roof,LED lighting,HUD and thigh extenders in the leather seats.I prefer the traditional BMW seat compared to the one they put in the new M3 and M4.

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      10-07-2014, 07:18 PM   #12
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Despite pricing and intentionally limiting the power compared to the M3, this WILL be the faster car.
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      10-07-2014, 07:26 PM   #13
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Have Austin Yellow available as a choice, although Long Beach Blue will probably be my first choice
6MT from M3/4
CF roof, ducktail CF trunk like M4
Aluminum hood with power dome
Manual cloth seats from M3/4
3400 lb goal
LED headlights available. That, metallic color, and HK will be the only options I'd want
Base price of ~$51k.

Don't think I'm asking for too much (I won't cry of it doesn't get CF bits or LED). If we can get what I listed, this car would be incredible.
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Seeing as BMW haven't even "officially" announced the M2 yet, how can we say it a definately getting the N55?

We all know it's coming... I'm just saying that BMW haven't even confirmed the car exists yet.
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      10-08-2014, 07:48 AM   #15
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i'd want this.

360-370hp, n55. hell even 350 would be enough, it doesnt have to be crazy
either a DCT or the 8ZF tuned from the m235i racing as the 'auto' option (honestly the 8ZF programming from the m235i racing as "sport+" given it'd cost almost nothing, would be ok if it made it cost less)
the wider track / suspension directly to the body like the m3/m4 with flared fenders (made from aluminum to save weight). also a aluminum trunklid / hood (cheaper than CF, and still saves a lot of weight)

base no power seats (and it'd be nice if you actually saved money for this) just like a 228i can have (saves ~10 lbs per seat, and the 1M could have this). this would also cost nothing obviously for them to do. you can add back power seats if you want for $

base no moonroof (even if its not CF thats 50 lbs, they should also give you money back for this, so it shoudl be the base car). again if you want one you add $

the m-sport LSD standard (its an M car after all)

some M looking 18" style Rims that look nicer than the m235i ones

alcantera seats as an option. nappa as an option. base sensatech or that sport cloth from the m3/m4

better paint color options.

base price of like $50k. so basically, suspension + wide track, and the base items that save weight that would cost nothing for BMW to do and retuned automatic / slightly higher tune engine. i'm not sure if this is an m2, or maybe really what my idea of what the M235 should have been, but still its my wish list.
Aside from the transmission and sensatec argument, I think this is the most reasonable list. Style, stiffness and weight savings without the investment. The scrappy little brother nipping at the heals of the M3/4, but not mature enough yet for the top-line tech.

Most of us here are wishing for a mini M4. S55, suspension, M4 seats, M4 trans, M4 driveshaft, M4-like luxury, etc. The cost savings brought on my smaller form factor are marginal, making the margins too small for the reasonable price point.
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Full leather option would be nice, as would cloth seats as that would make everyone happy. CCB, HUD, full LED lights would be nice as options as well.

I'd like to see some of the M3/M4 technology (like Li-Ion battery, carbon fiber driveshaft, etc.) trickle down to the M2.

A good selection of colors would be a great - there are only 7 choices on the M235i and 13 on the 228i. Seems BMW really focuses on darker colors these days.

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All of you dreaming of a new M2 are really just dreaming about a new 1M. The M2 at a 55k MSRP is not a bargain M car and never will be. The original MSRP of the 1M was around 44k and has since appreciated a minimum of 15k as a result of it's popularity. Instead of wasting your time dreaming of a new not so "budget M" use your 55K on a lightly used 1M, which will offer much better return in the foreseeable future and will forever be a classic. If you want a budget M, the M235i is your only hope
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Aside from the transmission and sensatec argument, I think this is the most reasonable list. Style, stiffness and weight savings without the investment. The scrappy little brother nipping at the heals of the M3/4, but not mature enough yet for the top-line tech.

Most of us here are wishing for a mini M4. S55, suspension, M4 seats, M4 trans, M4 driveshaft, M4-like luxury, etc. The cost savings brought on my smaller form factor are marginal, making the margins too small for the reasonable price point.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have minimal options. It seems here everyone here wants a lightweight car, but then also want to add full leather and HUD at the same time. I don't really want an mini M4 (at that point, I'd just get an M3 or M4), but rather a 1M v2.0.
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All of you dreaming of a new M2 are really just dreaming about a new 1M. The M2 at a 55k MSRP is not a bargain M car and never will be. The original MSRP of the 1M was around 44k and has since appreciated a minimum of 15k as a result of it's popularity. Instead of wasting your time dreaming of a new not so "budget M" use your 55K on a lightly used 1M, which will offer much better return in the foreseeable future and will forever be a classic. If you want a budget M, the M235i is your only hope
No thanks. I actually want to drive an M2 and use it, not have a collector car like a 1M that will sit there in the garage, and have me worry about its appreciating value. Not to mention the new M components such as brakes and suspensions are an upgrade too.

My plan is to skip a lot of options, to ED and break the under $50k barrier. Let's see if that'll be possible.
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No thanks. I actually want to drive an M2 and use it, not have a collector car like a 1M that will sit there in the garage, and have me worry about its appreciating value. Not to mention the new M components such as brakes and suspensions are an upgrade too.

My plan is to skip a lot of options, to ED and break the under $50k barrier. Let's see if that'll be possible.
Under 50k out the door would be a miracle
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All of you dreaming of a new M2 are really just dreaming about a new 1M. The M2 at a 55k MSRP is not a bargain M car and never will be. The original MSRP of the 1M was around 44k and has since appreciated a minimum of 15k as a result of it's popularity. Instead of wasting your time dreaming of a new not so "budget M" use your 55K on a lightly used 1M, which will offer much better return in the foreseeable future and will forever be a classic. If you want a budget M, the M235i is your only hope
No thanks. I actually want to drive an M2 and use it, not have a collector car like a 1M that will sit there in the garage, and have me worry about its appreciating value. Not to mention the new M components such as brakes and suspensions are an upgrade too.

My plan is to skip a lot of options, to ED and break the under $50k barrier. Let's see if that'll be possible.
Well I guess that makes sense. I am doing a european delivery with an Estoril Blue M235i bc it's such a great discount. I'm just personally a huge fan of the 1M. The M2 will be awesome, I guess I'm just a little disappointed the the M235i isn't the M2 (which will be out of my price range). Props to those who get it though
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Have Austin Yellow available as a choice, although Long Beach Blue will probably be my first choice
6MT from M3/4
CF roof, ducktail CF trunk like M4
Aluminum hood with power dome
Manual cloth seats from M3/4
3400 lb goal
LED headlights available. That, metallic color, and HK will be the only options I'd want
Base price of ~$51k.

Don't think I'm asking for too much (I won't cry of it doesn't get CF bits or LED). If we can get what I listed, this car would be incredible.
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