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      08-13-2015, 03:47 PM   #1
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My E46 6MT is nearing 100K miles with 2 months and I've had little luck locating a 2014 M235i 6MT (trying to keep it below a 100K). Tons of autos out there however.

2014 model yr mostly due to pricing being more in my wheelhouse. 6MT's are hard to find in the Seattle WA area.

I've widened my search to CA, OR, ID, CO, & AZ (here, Auto Trader, Cars.com, etc.).

Trying to stay away from black exterior. White and Silver 1st two choices.

Starting to wonder if it's time to bit the bullet and go for a 2015 "new" or slightly used. Thoughts?
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      08-13-2015, 03:52 PM   #2
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Why do you need to sell before 100k miles? They don't self destruct or anything.

My buddy just sold his E46 M3 with ~220k on his and it still ran like a top. FWIW, when we ran we were very even, until I eventually started to walk him. Very similar cars with very un-similar power bands.
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      08-13-2015, 05:23 PM   #4
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In my experience, the CPO cars really don't depreciate a huge amount - plus you end up with not getting an option you really wanted or getting an option you really didn't. Find a dealer willing to work with you and order what you want. I really don't think buyers of your E46 are going to care much about 99,100 miles vs. 103,000 miles. Once you get to that point (and beyond), it's all about condition.

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      08-13-2015, 05:29 PM   #5
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It will be exceedingly difficult to find one with MT. Any reason why you can't factory order?
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Why not expand your search to Nationwide?
Good point---I have not bought a car sight unseen before and was thinking the closer the better if I wanted to check it out first.

but yea, better broaden the net a bit!
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      08-13-2015, 05:37 PM   #7
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Why do you need to sell before 100k miles? They don't self destruct or anything.

My buddy just sold his E46 M3 with ~220k on his and it still ran like a top. FWIW, when we ran we were very even, until I eventually started to walk him. Very similar cars with very un-similar power bands.
Oh, good question and yes it's still running excellent at 96K! I got a tip on my E36 M3 to keep it below 100K from a German car consignment guy. He mentioned that "young buyers" tend to need financing and some credit unions and banks will loan on cars up to 100K miles.

So I consigned with him at 98K on the E36. Turns out a younger ish (24 yr old) came up and paid pretty much my asking price and got a loan.
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It will be exceedingly difficult to find one with MT. Any reason why you can't factory order?
Oh, just affordability at this point. My budget just won't support a new one but I'm starting to wonder if I'm chasing the imaginary car. From what I've read here a 2015 6MT, Tech, Premium, Cold weather would be north of $50K easy? Ha.
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In my experience, the CPO cars really don't depreciate a huge amount - plus you end up with not getting an option you really wanted or getting an option you really didn't. Find a dealer willing to work with you and order what you want. I really don't think buyers of your E46 are going to care much about 99,100 miles vs. 103,000 miles. Once you get to that point (and beyond), it's all about condition.

Best of luck.

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Thanks!

There is a Gray 2015 6MT at BMW Seattle right now. Just got in about a week ago. I'm going to drive it. It must be loaded to the gills. They are asking 56.9K. Whoa..
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BMW Bellevue has a nice 228i with a 6 speed with $44,600 list price.
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Oh, just affordability at this point. My budget just won't support a new one but I'm starting to wonder if I'm chasing the imaginary car. From what I've read here a 2015 6MT, Tech, Premium, Cold weather would be north of $50K easy? Ha.
I paid ~$43K (not including taxes and fees) for a 2016 with Cold Weather, Tech, and H/K. European Delivery, but even stateside it would be ~$46K. For 2016 most of the Premium Pkg minus leather is standard equipment, as is the alarm. I went for Oyster Sensatec instead of leather, also a new option for 2016.

I don't think nearly new cars are a good enough deal, especially with European Delivery as a possibility.
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Give it sometime with the M2 coming out in the next few months, you'll get an opportunity to find CPOs once they start crossing over to them. I know several of them that are already on a waiting list.
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I was hunting for a manual 2 series for awhile, but ended up ordering a new 228i. The lowest I saw a manual 235i was for 39.8k, but it has been sold.
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BMW Bellevue has a nice 228i with a 6 speed with $44,600 list price.
Thanks DanG. I may go give that a look. I work on the eastside!
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I paid ~$43K (not including taxes and fees) for a 2016 with Cold Weather, Tech, and H/K. European Delivery, but even stateside it would be ~$46K. For 2016 most of the Premium Pkg minus leather is standard equipment, as is the alarm. I went for Oyster Sensatec instead of leather, also a new option for 2016.

I don't think nearly new cars are a good enough deal, especially with European Delivery as a possibility.
Wow---that is a great deal. I might need to re-visit the ED process. The GF and I are talking about a trip to Europe in Nov (my first ever trip to Europe).
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Wow---that is a great deal. I might need to re-visit the ED process. The GF and I are talking about a trip to Europe in Nov (my first ever trip to Europe).
Do it. It's a fun experience.

Plus, ED will become a lot less lucrative after 1/1/2016. BMW is reportedly cutting the ED discount by 2%, which amounts to $900 on a $45K car.
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My E46 6MT is nearing 100K miles with 2 months and I've had little luck locating a 2014 M235i 6MT (trying to keep it below a 100K). Tons of autos out there however.

2014 model yr mostly due to pricing being more in my wheelhouse. 6MT's are hard to find in the Seattle WA area.

I've widened my search to CA, OR, ID, CO, & AZ (here, Auto Trader, Cars.com, etc.).

Trying to stay away from black exterior. White and Silver 1st two choices.

Starting to wonder if it's time to bit the bullet and go for a 2015 "new" or slightly used. Thoughts?
Have you driven an M235? My friend that drives an e46 M3 drove mine the other day and he was not overly impressed. In fact I honestly think he hated it and he has been a big fan of the car and has wanted to test mine for some time. I explained to him that there are a few things you need to get used to such as steering, throttle response, and power delivery and that it is a great car once you learn it. He agreed that he would like to try it again with a different expectation set.

I guess what I'm getting at is that it's no where near as close in real life as the cars are on paper. I really love mine, it's the best regular series bmw I have driven by a long shot, but it is very different than a real NA high revving M car.

Good luck with your search!
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I'll be more officially putting my car up in the FS section later tonight. 2014 Estoril Blue 6MT w/ 14K miles, Tech, Premium and Cold Weather packages.
Ah yes, we have traded PM's. Thx for the update.
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Do it. It's a fun experience.

Plus, ED will become a lot less lucrative after 1/1/2016. BMW is reportedly cutting the ED discount by 2%, which amounts to $900 on a $45K car.
Thanks again. I need to do some more research on ED process and timing. We are considering flying into Frankfurt ironically enough. Cheers.
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Have you driven an M235? My friend that drives an e46 M3 drove mine the other day and he was not overly impressed. In fact I honestly think he hated it and he has been a big fan of the car and has wanted to test mine for some time. I explained to him that there are a few things you need to get used to such as steering, throttle response, and power delivery and that it is a great car once you learn it. He agreed that he would like to try it again with a different expectation set.

I guess what I'm getting at is that it's no where near as close in real life as the cars are on paper. I really love mine, it's the best regular series bmw I have driven by a long shot, but it is very different than a real NA high revving M car.

Good luck with your search!
Oh boy, I have not actually driven a M2235i no. Never owned a non NA car either but sounds like I better drive the turbo car first. Full disclosure---started out looking for an E92 M3 6MT car but not sure "I need a V-8". Ha.

It basically came down to a 2009-2011 M3 6MT for the same price as a 2014 M235i. I was blown away on how the E92 prices have held up.
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Oh, just affordability at this point. My budget just won't support a new one but I'm starting to wonder if I'm chasing the imaginary car. From what I've read here a 2015 6MT, Tech, Premium, Cold weather would be north of $50K easy? Ha.
You can keep it under 50k if you got rid of the premium pkg. I used to have premium pkg in an F30 and don't miss it one bit.

My configuration was offered at $44k before taxes. If you trade in the E46 you could take a good chunk off the final $50k.
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