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      01-14-2014, 03:40 PM   #67
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Rear end looks better in these shots but still think its the weakest aspect. BTW Michelin PSS tires are a great choice. When my OEM runflats were done on my 1er I replaced them with the PSS tires (225/255). Very impressed with this tire. Huge improvement in every aspect over the runflats.
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      01-14-2014, 04:20 PM   #68
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Upper door panels are soft/padded, the bottom (storage pocket section) is hard plastic.
Does the 3 & 4 series have the same hard plastic bottom section?
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      01-14-2014, 04:54 PM   #69
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Yes, I'm a tad disappointed as well in the interior. It seems that they didn't quite catch how the inner door handles are too far forward to create an easy door closing pull. And the window switches are still way up there. Any taller person that isn't practically kissing the steering wheel has to reach a good ways for them.

Small annoyances, I know. But something easily curable in a second release.
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      01-14-2014, 05:10 PM   #70
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I really hope this cars drives and handles properly. This car, the 228i MSport in particular, would fit my bill perfectly for an affordable garage kept, fun car that would be used for spirited driving mostly (nice weather commutes, weekend twisties, occasional track days, etc...); but still have some practicality so its not and either/or switch between my daily driver sedan and this.

Looking forward to the first drives of 2. Hope it stacks up. Otherwise it might still be the Subaru BRZ for me (for pure driving experience alone).
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      01-14-2014, 06:00 PM   #71
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Does the 3 & 4 series have the same hard plastic bottom section?
No, dash and door panels are full soft plastic. Only the center console is completely hard plastic - as opposed to the E90/E92 that had about a 40% soft plastic center console.
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      01-15-2014, 02:38 AM   #72
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Wow lots of talk of hard plastic. I am very happy with the level of trim in my e82 and looks like I'll be happy with my m235i too.

Regarding wheels it's not often I think a production car "needs" bigger wheels but 18s look tiny, while the 18s on my e82 fit great.
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      01-15-2014, 11:15 AM   #73
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Yeah guys that 2 series is nice but can someone please explain to me how a fckin 2014 car can still have those terrible and ugly looking orange incandescent side indicators!? When even an audi a1 uses led!? I saw a 3 series the other day with incandescent brake lights and side indicators!! Come on bmw for christ's sake. What the people buying anything less than a 4 series need less premium treatment or what!? Ow waitt let me guess theyre holding it out for the lci right?? Pathetic dont understand why no one is saying something about it, be honest guys merc and audi or giving even their smallest costumers the full premium treatment so why bmdub aint!!!!!!!??!?
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      01-15-2014, 12:20 PM   #74
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Wasn't there a grey "splitter" in the center of the left and right front air dams? I thought earlier pics showed it there now I don't see it. It bothered me in the first place so I'm quite happy. Am I going crazy? Or did earlier picks show this and now they're gone. - yep, I checked. They are gone. Any other subtle changes anyone has noticed?
The grey 'air blades' are not part of the US version. They come with the M235i in other countries. I personally prefer them..
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      01-15-2014, 12:23 PM   #75
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The wheels on the M235i look ugly and too small. The 228i sport line is actually looking really good.

I agree with everyone in that the interior looks a bit cheap. I'm sure it's different in person though.
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      01-15-2014, 02:09 PM   #76
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My problem is that there should be a level of interior fit, finish and quality commensurate with the cost to pay. And hard plastics have no place in a car interior above $30,000, IMO. An interior that looks and feels decent at $30,000 kind of look and feels cheap at $50,000.

I guess that when BMW does product evaluation clinics they invite more people like you than people like me...
while i agree that hard plastics have no place - I think people who cross shop the bimmer with say the MB or Audi often misinterpret the dumbed down interior. It's one of the things that I think BMW continues to get right. One of the biggest selling points to me on this car is the simplistic, utilitiarian interior of a BMW. They've always been this way, and seem to want to keep the tradition.

I could hop in a 1 series or hop into an Alpina B7, and still have a good handle on what controls what. Its clean, simple, and well put together (even though it's allegedly a good bit of hard plastic).
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      01-15-2014, 04:28 PM   #77
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The grey 'air blades' are not part of the US version. They come with the M235i in other countries. I personally prefer them..
Had something to do with climate, if I remember correctly, right?
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      01-15-2014, 04:30 PM   #78
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The wheels on the M235i look ugly and too small. The 228i sport line is actually looking really good.

I agree with everyone in that the interior looks a bit cheap. I'm sure it's different in person though.
I think the design is good--they look really nice when in motion--what I don't like is the size (19 would be better) and the gunmetal (traditional ///M bright silver would be much better).

But since we don't know how much the 19s will be, these will have to do for now...
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I think the design is good--they look really nice when in motion--what I don't like is the size (19 would be better) and the gunmetal (traditional ///M bright silver would be much better).

But since we don't know how much the 19s will be, these will have to do for now...
It's that darn gunmetal that ruins the design!

I've noticed too that it looks great on the move..
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Had something to do with climate, if I remember correctly, right?
I think that's right
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I think that's right
I think the rationale was warmer climate countries do not get the slats so as to have less air vent obstruction.
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      01-15-2014, 08:02 PM   #82
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Just something to think about when considering the 19"'s especially with the run flats. I currently have this set up on my 335is and it looks amazing. Downside is I've gone through 5 damaged tires and a full replacement, so far in just over 2 years of ownership. Apx $375 per tire gets very expensive. Keeping in mind I live in south Florida and have great roads. I'd be scared out of my mind if I were back in New Jersey or Boston. The slightest pothole could easily take out a tire and heaven forbid, get to the rim. There's not much room with the 19"s. The ride is quite a bit stiffer with the 19" as well so I feel the road much more. Good and bad, in some ways. Also, only expect 15k out of a set of tires if you drive cautiously. Big regret I didn't buy the tire warranty when I could. BUT, just had our first tire go on my wife's X1 M Sport, she has the warranty, and they wouldn't honor it because she had less than 4mm of tread left after 12,000 miles. Needless to say I was disappointed to have to shell out almost $800 total because her other back tire was low so, why not do both? I know, it's the cost of ownership... All that said, that's why I believe they chose to give the 18" on the M235i. They ditched the run flats and put a great set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on it. As I understand that you can't change the suspension setup on the fly via "buttons" like the 228, I think the specialized setup for the M235 will be relatively stiff. Maybe they had that in mind when they chose the setup. I do like the look of 19" but there are some trade offs too. Just one owners experience with his really "cool" looking, really expensive in the end, 19"s.
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It's that darn gunmetal that ruins the design!

I've noticed too that it looks great on the move..
There's a shot at the beginning of the original marketing video they made with the dude at night - it's a close up of the wheels in motion, and man they look awesome there.

I had originally thought we might see the same wheel design in the bright silver - I could have swore that was a no cost option somewhere with the M135 somewhere. But haven't seen them on the M235 anywhere that I can think of.
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