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      02-05-2014, 11:45 AM   #1
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In an M235 there is the button that allows you to control the cars drive train and trany from sport+, sport, comfort, and eco. Will putting it in sport that way be the same as flicking the gear selector over on the sport auto, or do they do something different from each other?

what if you do both any benefits?
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Those modes control 2 things:

1) Chassis (steering weight and suspension hardness).

2) Drivetrain (throttle response and automatic-transmission shift-points and shift-speed).

In Sport Mode #1 always gets aggressive, you can program #2 to get sportier as well.

In Sport+ Mode #1 and #2 are always more aggressive plus you get DTC on (which means traction control off).
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Those modes control 2 things:

1) Chassis (steering weight and suspension hardness).

2) Drivetrain (throttle response and automatic-transmission shift-points and shift-speed).

In Sport Mode #1 always gets aggressive, you can program #2 to get sportier as well.

In Sport+ Mode #1 and #2 are always more aggressive plus you get DTC on (which means traction control off).
So what happens if I choose comfort mode and flick the auto tranny shifter to MS auto? Does the suspension remain soft and while holding gears longer or does MS override the mode selector and also affect suspension settings?
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I thought it also changes the steering response.
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So what happens if I choose comfort mode and flick the auto tranny shifter to MS auto? Does the suspension remain soft and while holding gears longer or does MS override the mode selector and also affect suspension settings?
It would just hold gears longer in that particular driving mode
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So what happens if I choose comfort mode and flick the auto tranny shifter to MS auto? Does the suspension remain soft and while holding gears longer or does MS override the mode selector and also affect suspension settings?
It would just hold gears longer in that particular driving mode
So would putting that car in sport then flipping the gear selector over do anything different than just putting the car in sport?
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Moving the gear selector to the left affects the transmission. I've only driven an auto in our X3, so I don't know about Sport+ mode, but in our X3, it works like this:

D - means the gear selector is in drive
D/S - means the gear selector is to the left in drive sport

Comfort D: Car shifts normally
Comfort D/S: Car holds gears until 4-5k RPM and downshifts aggressively
Sport D: Car holds gears until 3-4k RPM and downshifts more than Comfort D, but not as aggressive as D/S; throttle response is sharpened
Sport D/S: Car holds gears until almost redline and downshifts very aggressively; throttle response is same as Sport D

So, as you can see, it's a bit of a combination effect. The movement of the gear selector between D and D/S only affects the transmission shift points though. It doesn't change the rest of the car.

I find D/S is most useful for those instances where you need a more aggressive shift program for a brief moment. If I'm pulling out of a parking lot, and traffic is bad, I want the car to hold shifts so that I can maneuver adequately for conditions. I don't want to wait on downshifts. I just slap the gear selector over ot D/S, and go for it. If I'm going out for a spirited drive, I'll change the mode selector to Sport.

Interestingly, I find the shift program in Sport to be tolerable around town, but moving the gear selector to D/S is something I will only do if I'm really out to drive for fun. Sport seems really well balanced for sporty, but not insane driving, then the flip to Sport & D/S really lights things up.
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