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      03-21-2014, 06:35 AM   #1
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Suggestions for M2 (when announced)

Wanted to start a thread here for the future M2 owners on what they want to see and not see on the 201x M2. I just joined the M235i ranks and have one initial observation I would like to see the new M2 not have:

Too many M badges! The things are everywhere inside and outside the car, leaning more toward the fanboy racer crowd IMHO.

To BMW: Please ensure the new M2 has the M Power badges in the following locations only:

  • Wheels (as now)
  • Rear deck lid
  • Exterior side air vent
  • Door sills
  • Steering wheel
  • Shift knob
  • Seat headrests
  • Front floor mats
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      03-21-2014, 07:02 AM   #3
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Too many M badges! The things are everywhere inside and outside the car, leaning more toward the fanboy racer crowd IMHO.
Sorry, have to disagree here.

More M badges please:

1) Rear view mirror
2) Kidney grills
3) Roof (especially large, so as to be seen from the air)
4) Exhaust pipe
5) Ashtray
6) First aid kit
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This is a tremendous thread-thank you.

I would like to see the M2 vehicle shell in the shape of a capital 'M'
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Wanted to start a thread here for the future M2 owners on what they want to see and not see on the 201x M2. I just joined the M235i ranks and have one initial observation I would like to see the new M2 not have:

Too many M badges! The things are everywhere inside and outside the car, leaning more toward the fanboy racer crowd IMHO.

To BMW: Please ensure the new M2 has the M Power badges in the following locations only:

  • Wheels (as now)
  • Rear deck lid
  • Exterior side air vent
  • Door sills
  • Steering wheel
  • Shift knob
  • Seat headrests
  • Front floor mats
Since you seem to be bothered by the extreme amount of M badges, are you planning to debadge?
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windscreen 90% tint with M badge cut out just enough to see out!!
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I'd like to see a true M department designed motor and not just a slightly tweaked version of the motor in the M235i. I'd also like it to maintain full turbo boost to 7k rpm, have a close-ratio 6spd manual designed for peformance over economy (optional DCT fine), optional carbon-ceramic brakes with lots of air cooling directed at the rotors, lightweight sport/racing seats as an option, carbon roof (without sunroof), and a curb weight of 3,000 pounds or less. Real M-LSD (electronically controlled clutch-type LSD as in M3/M4).
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I'd like to see a true M department designed motor and not just a slightly tweaked version of the motor in the M235i. I'd also like it to maintain full turbo boost to 7k rpm, have a close-ratio 6spd manual designed for peformance over economy (optional DCT fine), optional carbon-ceramic brakes with lots of air cooling directed at the rotors, lightweight sport/racing seats as an option, carbon roof (without sunroof), and a curb weight of 3,000 pounds or less. Real M-LSD (electronically controlled clutch-type LSD as in M3/M4).
all that is fine....if you want an $80k M2. i certainly do NOT.

gimme an N55. 350hp. 3100 pounds. 6 speed. navigation and bluetooth. some leather. don't care about anything else. i want it for $55k.
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all that is fine....if you want an $80k M2. i certainly do NOT.
Why would that be? Nothing there that the M3 doesn't already have or could have without much expense and it costs $62k. I'd be happy with a few less luxury features to trim costs...

This is your wishlist?:

"gimme an N55. 350hp. 3100 pounds. 6 speed. navigation and bluetooth. some leather. don't care about anything else. i want it for $55k."

Sounds like you'd be perfectly happy with a slightly massaged M235i as far as I can see - no point in a separate model for that (just get the ECU very mildly flashed and a few weight saving pieces)...
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Sounds like you'd be perfectly happy with a slightly massaged M235i as far as I can see - no point in a separate model for that (just get the ECU very mildly flashed and a few weight saving pieces)...
400+ pounds of weight savings is a little more than a few changes.
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I haven't done a ton of research on the M2 as the 235 is more than sufficient for my needs and I have one on order. Spending the extra money would have no benefit to me for a DD in the city and I actually may enjoy the M2 less. That said, is the M2 going to be as widely available in volume similar to the M3s and M4s of the world? Or will it be limited a la the 1M? I ask simply because driving the 235 for three years will cost me what, $20k? You could, and many did, drive the 1M for free for 3 years. Dealer in Chicago told me the other day he sold one that had BEEN HIT for significantly more than original MSRP.

Yes, during ownership of an M2 you'd have more $ tied up, but if you get it back at the end and could drive it for free like the 1M that doesn't really matter.
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400+ pounds of weight savings is a little more than a few changes.
I hadn't realized that the M235i is 200 pounds heavier than the larger M4. That is pretty porky.
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I hadn't realized that the M235i is 200 pounds heavier than the larger M4. That is pretty porky.
Another way of looking at it is that the M4 is 200 pounds lighter than the 435i. M made the E9x and E6x M cars porkers with lots of power, now they're getting back to making lighter cars, hopefully that trend continues with the M2.
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Another way of looking at it is that the M4 is 200 pounds lighter than the 435i.
According to BMW USA, the M235i is less than 80 pounds lighter than 435i (both with manual gearbox), so I hope that doesn't mean the M2 would be only 80 pounds lighter than M4, at best...

Just noticed that the M235i allows for a Moonroof-delete option - I would select that for sure if I was buying one. Don't save any money, but you lose weight off the top of the car (probably around 60 pounds) and gain headroom.
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Oil temp gauge.

And the S55 powertrain from the M3/4 would be perfect.
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Suggestions for M2

  • M2 CSL
  • Keyless-Entry Standard
  • No A/C
  • No iDrive (Navi)
  • No Radio/Loudspeekers
  • No Shark Antenna
  • No Head-Up-Display!!! (totally useless)
  • Oil Temp and Boost Gauge in Instrument Cluster
  • S55 Engine + M Performance Power Kit (not detuned but 460-480 PS)
    OR
    S48 Engine (Twin-Turbo 2.0l I4) making 420 PS with 9.000 RPM Redline
  • Short Shift 6 MT
  • M Wide Body Kit (not JDM style)
  • CF Barrel 19" Wheels (like i8) of M3/M4 Size
  • Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 Tires
  • Alcantara Upholstery with Contrast Stitching
  • Lightweight Floor Mats
  • Lightweight Glass/Windows
  • Lightweight CF Front and Rear Seats (no rollcage)
  • CF Interior Trim
  • CF Interior Door and Rear Panels
  • CF Doors
  • CF Hood
  • CF Roof
  • CF Trunk
  • CF Front Lip
  • CF Rear Diffuser
  • CF Driveshaft
  • CF Side Mirror Covers
  • CF Engine Cover
  • CF Airbox
  • M Performance Titanium Exhaust with CF Tips (Akrapovic)
  • M Performance Ceramic Brakes in Color of Contrast Stitching (Brembo)
  • M Performance Adjustable Coilovers (KW)
  • M Badges on: Steering Wheel, Shift Knob, Foot Rest, Instrument Cluster, Floor Mats, Door Sills, Side Gills, Wheels, Brake Calipers, Engine Cover, Exhaust Tips
  • Shadow-Line for: Window Trim, Side Gills, Kidney Grill, Mesh Grills, Wheel Centre
  • LED Headlight, Taillights, Turn Signals, Brake Lights and Interior Lighting

I think that's it.
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Too many M badges! The things are everywhere inside and outside the car, leaning more toward the fanboy racer crowd IMHO.
Exactly what is everyone's gripe, here? It has less "M" flair than the new M3 or M4.
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Why would that be? Nothing there that the M3 doesn't already have or could have without much expense and it costs $62k. I'd be happy with a few less luxury features to trim costs...

This is your wishlist?:

"gimme an N55. 350hp. 3100 pounds. 6 speed. navigation and bluetooth. some leather. don't care about anything else. i want it for $55k."

Sounds like you'd be perfectly happy with a slightly massaged M235i as far as I can see - no point in a separate model for that (just get the ECU very mildly flashed and a few weight saving pieces)...
if it's an M car, LSD will be standard and there's no need to mention it at all. The N55 M2 is already in testing so not sure why some of you are talking about engines....it is decided. I have no interest for the M235i as i prefer my 135is for its less weight, more rawness, and rowdiness! I am, however, very interested in a more focused and engineered M2. Hopefully some M3 components (suspension, steering, and axles) will sneak in there like they did into the 1M.

i would not be surprised if they do the limited edition thing again....because it generates a lot of hype for the "M" brand and excitement. It sucks that it creates that whole mess of not being able to get one.....i know because i was not able to get an allocation for a 1M when i wanted one.....after i turned one down when i wasn't sure about it (slaps forehead).
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I want a flashing strobe on the bumper that says "THE REAL M2!!!!!!!!!!!".
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Already decided to buy a M2. Unless the X1M comes out with a manual trans( i doub't it). Not looking for the fastsest track car...Just road car for me and looks are as important as function as sub 5 sec 0-60 is all i need in speed. But for looks PLEASE BMW show some muscle and flair(fenders) in the rear end plus wider rubber in the rear(muscle) and some flair in the front and i will be a happy dude.....and yeas PLEASE come out with some unique colors for the M2....Also like the 1M enhance the interior a tad with unique M2 trim.
***also use as much CF as possible, and keep the weight down.
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When a head honcho Matthias Muller from Porsche had said that the next Boxster/Cayman may have a flat four, and that it could push out 400 hp, I think a high winding turbo four (about 360-385 hp) would be real good for the M2...lightweight, tight, good handling.

http://jalopnik.com/next-porsche-box...pos-1548732171

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