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      04-24-2012, 04:43 PM   #1
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Post Enhancing Desire: The Sporty BMW 2 Series Coupe, Cabrio, M235i, M2, Sedan Gran Coupe

** Admin Edit: BMW product plans are constantly in flux, so please consider that when reading development/planning info such as the below. And of course, everything is always subject to changes.

Also, for those who haven't been following the rumors, if it happens, the "2 Series" is basically a new badge for the 1 Series Coupe and Convertible. There would then be no 1 Series Coupe and Convertible. **



The latest Autobild magazine from Germany is currently running a feature on BMW and the seventeen new models due from the company over the course of the next two-three years.

One such model illustrated is the BMW 2er shown below in Cabrio variant. Whilst some of the rendered illustrations border on some fiction, the 2er Cabrio illustrated shows some idea of the actual surface changes in distinguishing the 2er from the 1er, which BMW have concentrated on to give a more sportier look to the small and very popular 1er Coupe replacement.

The 2er as it progresses from the 1er to slot in with the even number of the Coupe family , will be BMW's entry Coupe model in Rear Wheel Drive specification. With advanced plans to switch the entire 1er to front wheel drive in the next generation. The 2er is introduced to keep the sportier compact rear wheel drive concept in balance.

As seen on the rendering by the Autobild artist Larson. He has incorporated some of the current design thinking within BMW demonstrated on the visual canvas of the Vision ConnectedDrive and 328 Hommage concepts with their prominent surface layering in this case the 2er given its sporting credentials is designed as a concept in motion with everything on the surface of the car raked forward.

The Surface layering distinguishes the bloodline between the 1er and 2er with the rear wheel arch being formed by a dropping character line which will give the car a compact rear deck as the typical BMW 2dr Sedan look. Like the Sporthatch this line will surround the rear arch and pronounce the surface work on the lower flanks of the car.

The rear tail-lights appear in two formats one not shown here , is raked forward in some way similar to the current car with tones of the Vision ConnectedDrive leading into a more pronounced L-Shape. Like the current 1er Coupe and Cabrio, the characterline which visually "connects" the rear arch spreads around the rear , allowing the rear lamps to droop down when that "U" shape meets the license plate in the middle allowing a visual comparison with the current car in progress.

The other format shown here is the same idea with the taillights wrapping around in the opposite direction as shown in the illustration.

The front of the 1er has not been universally accepted by a minority, nevertheless the car has been successful with the Sportline being the popular choice. But with the seperation of the two models , BMW have given the 2er its own identity. It will progress the look of the 1er but give its own distinctive look which will be less visual than the hatch but still with a very dynamic sporty appearance.

The 2er will of course emulate the 1er in engine options with both Petrol and Diesel of Four and Six cylinders. And optional xDrive.
In order to bring the M Performance compact car to the US, There will be an M235i heading the top of the range. And available in both Coupe and Cabrio.

The 1M Coupe replacement is undergoing intense discussion. The basic recipe is the same as before - The entry M , powerful , compact and great to drive but with the opportunity to push for progress without sacrificing its core strengths and attributes.


Four Door 2 Series?

With the advent of the BMW 6er Gran Coupe and the promise of a similar concept for the upcoming 4er. BMW has been left in a sort of dilemma. As the 2er retains that classic BMW appearance , turning the car into a four door will give the car the look of a small sedan, which goes against BMW's Gran Coupe idea. A Small RWD sedan is not condsidered by BMW in the long term as they need to protect the 3er and its large fleet market share, something that projections show that the Audi A3 Sedan and Mercedes CLA could eat into the C-Klasse and A4 respectively especially in the highly contested fleet market where the larger cars are more profitable. But the desire of such small sedan-Coupe concepts has not gone unnoticed. Especially for markets like the US and China.

Although nothing has been confirmed BMW are investigating two options - One would be a four dour spun of the upcoming BMW 1er City model which will be available as both 3dr and 5dr, and its adaptable modular architecture which would be available with FWD and AWD - Making it a formidable rival for both the A3 and CLA as they are both FWD and AWD. This could also sire a four dr MINI Sedan.

Another idea is GCC - GranCoupe Compact. Which is in the infant stages of discussion so far, A seperate model kind of like how the 5er GT fits within the regular 5er , enhancing the design of the regular Coupe and Cabrio but with a much lower Gran Coupe glasshouse and roofline but remaining with RWD and optional xDrive. This model could be a four or five dr or even take a new direction in design. BMW Design have been evaluating highly contemporary stylish concepts such as the Hyundai Veloster and Citroen DS5 for a varied perception. However, having a look at the Mercedes-Benz CSC Concept in Beijing shows that it is in fact longer than the C-Klasse and therefore looks more of a car to compete against the 4er Gran Coupe rather than a 2er.
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....interesting if the crease above the rear wheel arch will be retained....

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really?

anotherrrr model?

although it would still probably sell well... i mean its a bmw... just seems needless.
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As long as they don't put the fugly 1-series hatch lights on it, they will have a good starting point.
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...please BMW... keep it together... growth for growths sake can get scary..

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Not liking the route of having several different models/series
Seriously, just stick to 1,3,5,6,7,x3,x5,x6 and z
The 2,4 and x1 seem pointless to me.
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hmm, first we've seen of a break in the body line for the rear on a BMW, not sure I like it.
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Not liking the route of having several different models/series
Seriously, just stick to 1,3,5,6,7,x3,x5,x6 and z
The 2,4 and x1 seem pointless to me.
Too late, it is coming. Time will tell if they are growing too big too fast. Audi, Benz, BMW are in a race to out sell themselves.
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amen. huge fail on their part imo
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Anyone consider that perhaps BMW is trying to reclame the 1-series badge for a future supercar? Guy can dream can't he?
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Niche cars are where its at. If all of BMW's offerings become "niche" then they will be able to keep sales prices high and resale will follow...

More choices and more competition is always better for the end consumer, so bring on as many models as you can so long as quality doesn't suffer... Go ahead and squash the "GT" cars though, instead, offer 335i and m3 versions of the F31 (wagon) and 550i and M5 versions of the F11 (wagon) in the US please. I'd lay money you'll sell every single one you bring over...
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Iīm sory, but i think there is no market. Our automotive industry is field with lots of cars in this particulary segment. Sincerely i wouldnt buy it, because there is already 2 wonderfull BMW, the 1 series and the 3 series, great cars.. I dont want nothing between those models. If you want to invent some new, donīt use half measures, do you want something new and fresh.. redesign from scratch the Z4.
Dont be like Mercedes.. lots and lots of models... just keep it together "BMW The Ultimate Driving Machine".
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Not terribly excited about this car. Let's hope the hideous front from the new 1er hatch doesn't make it into the 2er.
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Anyone consider that perhaps BMW is trying to reclame the 1-series badge for a future supercar? Guy can dream can't he?
Or to repurpose it for the small FWD model they're rumored to be planning.
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lets see the front so I can order the new cayman and be done with it
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It might be a good move but who knows.
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Not liking the route of having several different models/series
Seriously, just stick to 1,3,5,6,7,x3,x5,x6 and z
The 2,4 and x1 seem pointless to me.
But if audi is doing it, BMW must follow
Look at how successful the Audi A5 is
Most people I know think the A5 is a better car than the A4
Because as we all know 5>4
and they get to charge more for what is basically the same car
so now BMW is imitating
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I love what BMW is doing right now
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