BMW M235i vs Opel Astra OPC vs Subaru WRX STi [VIDEO]

Vervain · 09-16-2014, 11:44 AM

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Ignition Live Test

0-100-0 km/h Test:

1. BMW M235i - 9.1 seconds
2. Subaru WRX STi - 9.78 seconds
3. Opel Astra OPC - 10.78 seconds

Lap times:

1. Opel Astra OPC - 48.17 seconds
2. Subaru WRX STi - 48.45 seconds
3. BMW M235i - 49.92 seconds

Comfort Test (LOL):

1. BMW M235i
2. Opel Astra OPC
3. Subaru WRX STi

VMRWheels · 09-16-2014, 12:25 PM

Can't say I'm surprised. Cool vid, thanks for sharing!

ska///235i · 09-16-2014, 01:01 PM

So soft rides are the trend now huh??

xxxHolic · 09-16-2014, 01:14 PM

Is the ride really that soft? I get pretty fair amount of road feedback....I am just not a fan of the run flat tires.

ska///235i · 09-16-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxHolic

Is the ride really that soft? I get pretty fair amount of road feedback....I am just not a fan of the run flat tires.

Well, they make it soft for the rfts. Sports mode with chasis setting is ok

Alpine F31 · 09-16-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ska///235i

Well, they make it soft for the rfts. Sports mode with chasis setting is ok

I thought it didn't come with run flats. Doesn't your car have Michelin Super
Sport (non run flat) tires?

xxxHolic · 09-16-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine F31

I thought it didn't come with run flats. Doesn't your car have Michelin Super
Sport (non run flat) tires?

For better or worse, my car has run-flat tires all season tires.

Vervain · 09-16-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VMRWheels

Can't say I'm surprised. Cool vid, thanks for sharing!

I'm surprised by the OPCs lap time, given the power deficit and weight penalty compared to the other two. I can't believe the LSD makes such a huge difference!

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Originally Posted by xxxHolic

Is the ride really that soft? I get pretty fair amount of road feedback....I am just not a fan of the run flat tires.

I find the RFTs, at least on the F30, to be quite forgiving. I also prefer them based on the convenience/safety aspect. I don't think I will ever get a car without them..

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Originally Posted by ska///235i

Well, they make it soft for the rfts. Sports mode with chasis setting is ok

I'm guessing you have the adaptive suspension (not sure if it's standard in the US)?

xxxHolic · 09-16-2014, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Anodite10

I find the RFTs, at least on the F30, to be quite forgiving. I also prefer them based on the convenience/safety aspect. I don't think I will ever get a car without them..

I went over some not so smooth road today and the sound in the cabin was, horrible. The tires sounded hollow...and definitely weren't dampening the sound...I am just not fan. Maybe it because I'm coming for '12 A6 and the road noise was non-existent on that car and "20 tires and stance were a blast to drive. I get the safety aspect though, but I can't help but to think this technology should be a bit more advanced at this point to make these tires better.

Vervain · 09-16-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxHolic

I went over some not so smooth road today and the sound in the cabin was, horrible. The tires sounded hollow...and definitely weren't dampening the sound...I am just not fan. Maybe it because I'm coming for '12 A6 and the road noise was non-existent on that car and "20 tires and stance were a blast to drive. I get the safety aspect though, but I can't help but to think this technology should be a bit more advanced at this point to make these tires better.

It is probably because you're coming from the A6! And maybe because my previous car was an E90 with first generation RFTs..they were terrible compared to the ones on the F30! MUCH smoother now. As for noise, the wind noise filtering into the F30 cabin drowns out the tire noise

Diver · 09-17-2014, 10:17 AM

M235i wins on straight line and comfort without a doubt. The Subaru is one hard riding car. The lap time surprised me because the M235i was faster than the Subaru at C&D's lightening lap. I wonder if the M235i at C&d was auto, here it is 6-mt

stylinexpat · 09-17-2014, 10:21 AM

The 0-100 numbers do not make sense..

Kornmuse · 09-17-2014, 10:29 AM

I think it's 0-100 MPH

GreG

wdeerfield · 09-17-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kornmuse

I think it's 0-100 MPH

GreG

It's 0 to 100 to 0. Makes perfect sense

gmd2003 · 09-17-2014, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Diver

M235i wins on straight line and comfort without a doubt. The Subaru is one hard riding car. The lap time surprised me because the M235i was faster than the Subaru at C&D's lightening lap. I wonder if the M235i at C&d was auto, here it is 6-mt

Nope it's because VIR is a power course , lots of slow corners leading to long straights . On a tight track the M235's soft suspension and weight obviously hurt it quite a bit .

ORIGIN M. · 09-17-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stylinexpat

The 0-100 numbers do not make sense..

They are 0-100 and then back to a complete stop.

Dackelone · 09-17-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine F31

I thought it didn't come with run flats. Doesn't your car have Michelin Super
Sport (non run flat) tires?

All season Bridgestone RFT's are standard. Michelin PSS non RFT's (summer tires)are a no cost option on the M235i.

Dackel

ALPINA B5 · 09-17-2014, 10:52 AM

call me a brand snob...but if i was considering a BMW or Subaru there's no way I am throwing so much money on something made by Opel or GM

Diver · 09-17-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gmd2003

Nope it's because VIR is a power course , lots of slow corners leading to long straights . On a tight track the M235's soft suspension and weight obviously hurt it quite a bit .

That is most likely the answer, but I still wonder if the C&D car was auto or manual, just because I want to know.

The Opel is not sold in the USA, so between the Subie and BMW, the beemer is a much better daily drive, but beyond some folks budget.

AdrianRex · 09-17-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ALPINA B5

call me a brand snob...but if i was considering a BMW or Subaru there's no way I am throwing so much money on something made by Opel or GM

GM and the Cadillac ATS would like to have a word with you.

fgalanda · 09-17-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AdrianRex

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALPINA B5

call me a brand snob...but if i was considering a BMW or Subaru there's no way I am throwing so much money on something made by Opel or GM

GM and the Cadillac ATS would like to have a word with you.

ATS is not even comparable to F30 (which it was designed to compete) and you can disagree as much as you want. I drove them back to back with couple other enthusiasts. We all agreed on that. Cadillac will never compete with BMW

bladeomatic · 09-17-2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Diver

M235i wins on straight line and comfort without a doubt. The Subaru is one hard riding car. The lap time surprised me because the M235i was faster than the Subaru at C&D's lightening lap. I wonder if the M235i at C&d was auto, here it is 6-mt

This track was much smaller/tighter, reducing the 235i's hp advantage and enhancing the Subaru's AWD and tighter suspension.

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