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      07-25-2014, 11:13 AM   #177
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M235i replaces the 135is.
in the states? i don't care if it replaces a 135i or a 135is.....i would say it replaced both in the states because you can either get a 228i or an m235i. nothing special regardless. (well its a special car but yeah, nothing special like an ///M2 would be!)
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      07-25-2014, 11:34 AM   #178
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M235i replaces the 135is.
in the states? i don't care if it replaces a 135i or a 135is.....i would say it replaced both in the states because you can either get a 228i or an m235i. nothing special regardless. (well its a special car but yeah, nothing special like an ///M2 would be!)
Yeah, in the US. BMW didn't replace the 135i with anything -- just the 128i and the 135is (and soon, 1M).
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      07-25-2014, 11:47 AM   #179
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You're missing my point. The test mule looks to have 19" wheels on it. If they put those as standard on the car, they will probably have to fit 30 series tires, which would not be good. It'll look nice, but you really want more meat on your sidewall for a performance car.
why wouldn't they be able to fit a 245 to 275 tire with a 35 profile? are you saying you want a 265 or 275 wide tire with a 40 profile?

for your reference i run 18x10 with 275/35 rs3's on all four corners for the track and 245/265 re11 on the stock zcp wheels for daily. i don't see any performance that i'm giving up in my two setups. i mean, how much tire do you need for the street? just don't slap on some ventus v12's
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      07-25-2014, 11:47 AM   #180
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The M2 will have the LCI changes just as the 1M did, and will come slightly before the LCI 2er.
Didn't the F10 M5 do this same thing? I remember thinking why the fast update to the M5....



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      07-25-2014, 11:59 AM   #181
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When will this end. I say to your post, don't bother putting an old MT clunker in it and only offer it in M-DCT.

I could add that if they only offer in it MT they wont even move them off the lot. There is no argument here, the stats show that 75% of owners will purchase M-DCT over manual.

I am buying a performance car and I also want the performance transmission to go with it. Don't see many MT in F1 these days do you?

Having said that, I expect BMW to offer choices and let the buyer chose what options they want, that way we can all be happy.
i laugh whenever someone compares a dual clutch system with F1 because it is nothing close to it. Do you have to do this?

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      07-25-2014, 12:50 PM   #182
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Yeah, it came way quicker than what seemed fair to the early adopters.
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Didn't the F10 M5 do this same thing? I remember thinking why the fast update to the M5....



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      07-25-2014, 01:43 PM   #183
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Didn't the F10 M5 do this same thing? I remember thinking why the fast update to the M5....



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There was no quick update to the M5. Competition Packet came exactly 2years after launch in May 2011. The US market got the car a year later in 2012.
Europe had the car in November 2011.
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The M2 will have the LCI changes just as the 1M did, and will come slightly before the LCI 2er.
So what you are saying is that when they released the 1M,it received the LCI update before the regular 1 series did and BMW is going to do the same thing with the M2.
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      07-25-2014, 03:02 PM   #185
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The M2 will have the LCI changes just as the 1M did, and will come slightly before the LCI 2er.
So what you are saying is that when they released the 1M,it received the LCI update before the regular 1 series did and BMW is going to do the same thing with the M2?
Yes that is exactly what I am saying. We will see LCI cars running around soon enough with the updates, and it's a strong possibility both LCI 2er series cars as we'll as the M2 will get the new generation motors.
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      07-25-2014, 03:59 PM   #186
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I will take DCT! I also think this will be limited in numbers just like the 1M but more in total.
It will NOT be limited production.
Let's hope it is, makes reselling it easy and you get all of your money back
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      07-25-2014, 04:17 PM   #187
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So the lease on my 335is is up in august 2015. Does anyone know if BMW will be willing to extend it long enough for me to get an M2?
Probably not. I believe BMWFS will extend a lease only up to 6 months and then only if you have a new BMW on order.

Maybe they'll write you a new lease with new terms, payment amount, etc. for another set term (12, 24, 36 months or whatever), but that would probably not be as good a deal financially.
Bummer. I was hoping the timing would work out but it sounds like it probably won't.
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You can forget it. The 1M was a tease, and the tease while alive and well, is simply over.

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      07-25-2014, 06:21 PM   #189
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So what you are saying is that when they released the 1M,it received the LCI update before the regular 1 series did and BMW is going to do the same thing with the M2.
1M got the LCI updates the same time as the regular E8x series cars did.
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The 1M & 1er Electric Coupe' were seen in the wild [w/ LCI changes] before the LCI changes were shown on the standard 1er series car.

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Absolutely they didnt and neither will this M2.

For now the argument stays. What else are you going to do on here? Argue that your silver color is better then my Blue? BOOOOORING. Its all in good fun. I like discussions and certanly dont mean to be aggressive and rude. .
Very true and nicely said. That is the good thing about the forum, we can discuss (argue) about the things that are important to each of us in this coming weapon.

Oh, and Blue over silver every day of the week! ha ha
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Absolutely they didnt and neither will this M2.

For now the argument stays. What else are you going to do on here? Argue that your silver color is better then my Blue? BOOOOORING. Its all in good fun. I like discussions and certanly dont mean to be aggressive and rude. .
Very true and nicely said. That is the good thing about the forum, we can discuss (argue) about the things that are important to each of us in this coming weapon.

Oh, and Blue over silver every day of the week! ha ha
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You can forget it. The 1M was a tease, and the tease while alive and well, is simply over.

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Let's hope it is, makes reselling it easy and you get all of your money back
Let's see 1M is true halo car, can BMW really pass up the chance to do the same again ? I would like to think that BMW still has a lot of surprises up its sleeve and engines, gearboxes and build numbers fall into that category.
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So now that there will be an "M2" are they going to drop the m235i moniker and just go back to "235i MSport" like they do with the rest of the lineup?
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying. We will see LCI cars running around soon enough with the updates, and it's a strong possibility both LCI 2er series cars as we'll as the M2 will get the new generation motors.
That is great news because I am ordering the M2 as soon as it is available and I would like it to have the latest changes that BMW does with the LCI.
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Let's hope it is, makes reselling it easy and you get all of your money back
Let's see 1M is true halo car, can BMW really pass up the chance to do the same again ? I would like to think that BMW still has a lot of surprises up its sleeve and engines, gearboxes and build numbers fall into that category.
halo car?! it was entry level
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So now that there will be an "M2" are they going to drop the m235i moniker and just go back to "235i MSport" like they do with the rest of the lineup?
I do believe there will be three levels: base, M Performance and M. Sort of how Audi does base, S and RS.
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Correct. There is a bunch of M Performace Cars coming... including the M340i/M440i, X3 M40i.

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I do believe there will be three levels: base, M Performance and M. Sort of how Audi does base, S and RS.
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