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      07-23-2014, 02:16 PM   #45
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I was really hoping they'd do an S version of the turbo 4 they're going to be putting in the 228's, something like the CLA45
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      07-23-2014, 02:18 PM   #46
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Dang I'm more excited about this than the M4. I've been looking to purchase a 1M but with the ridiculous pricing I'll just hold off and pick up one of these bad boys.
Maybe 1M values will go down when the M2 comes out? I hope so anyway
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      07-23-2014, 02:20 PM   #47
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I wonder if CCB will be available for this car?
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      07-23-2014, 02:23 PM   #48
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Test drove the M4 today...its a very nice car, lots of tech and the HUD is pretty nice, shows the gear and tach. More importantly, i put down a deposit today for the M2....first in line at my dealership.

So looks like deliveries will be mid 2016....damn, 2 more years in my Mini.
You gonna keep this one? I don't think I could have a FWD track car more than about 1 month.
Commuting? sure.. track and autocross... nah..
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      07-23-2014, 02:26 PM   #49
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I wonder if CCB will be available for this car?
I seriously doubt it.

Doesn't mean you cannot add them from the parts bin.
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      07-23-2014, 02:28 PM   #50
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If this one is a pig like m235 I am off to Cayman
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      07-23-2014, 02:32 PM   #51
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So just as a reminder what was in the M1?
Well to be picky (), the M1 has the legendary in-line six cylinder M88 engine. The 1 M coupe has a re-tuned N54.

Anyway, the M2 is going to be a winner. It's really making me rethink a planned F80 M3 purchase. It's a long way away though...
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      07-23-2014, 02:35 PM   #52
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If this one is a pig like m235 I am off to Cayman
It will be lighter, but not by much.
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      07-23-2014, 02:45 PM   #53
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People hear about an M2, and right away they start asking for:
- Carbon fiber roof
- S designated engine
- Carbon ceramic brakes
- weight reduction

If that is what you want, get an M3/M4. M2 (and previously 1M) is about entry-level M ownership, at entry level pricing. Don't expect all the bells and whistles...
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      07-23-2014, 02:56 PM   #54
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People hear about an M2, and right away they start asking for:
- Carbon fiber roof
- S designated engine
- Carbon ceramic brakes
- weight reduction

If that is what you want, get an M3/M4. M2 (and previously 1M) is about entry-level M ownership, at entry level pricing. Don't expect all the bells and whistles...
IMHO M should be all about performance and levels should be dictated by the series/size which should have no bearing on peformance.
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      07-23-2014, 03:01 PM   #55
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People hear about an M2, and right away they start asking for:
- Carbon fiber roof
- S designated engine
- Carbon ceramic brakes
- weight reduction

If that is what you want, get an M3/M4. M2 (and previously 1M) is about entry-level M ownership, at entry level pricing. Don't expect all the bells and whistles...
Look if they can't put a M motor in the car it's a half baked attempt... Might as well call it a M Performance Model. So I guess if you want a real special engine you have to to AMG to get the goods.
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      07-23-2014, 03:25 PM   #56
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The new M3/M4 use the S55 (which is derived from the N55 but sufficiently changed to warrant its own designation) whereas the M2 uses the N55. The M2's N55 seems to be an enhanced version of the N55 engine used in the 135i, 335i etc.
Ok thanks...and that blows. The S55 seems much more stout than the N55
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Test drove the M4 today...its a very nice car, lots of tech and the HUD is pretty nice, shows the gear and tach. More importantly, i put down a deposit today for the M2....first in line at my dealership.

So looks like deliveries will be mid 2016....damn, 2 more years in my Mini.
Here we go again, just like in 2011 for the 1M Coupe

I've had my deposit down 1 month now and 1st at my dealership
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      07-23-2014, 03:41 PM   #58
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So just as a reminder what was in the M1?
Well to be picky (), the M1 has the legendary in-line six cylinder M88 engine. The 1 M coupe has a re-tuned N54.

Anyway, the M2 is going to be a winner. It's really making me rethink a planned F80 M3 purchase. It's a long way away though...

Thanks for the clarification, yes I meant the 1M. I think the M2 gonna be an awesome car and may very well take the sales away from the new M3/4
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      07-23-2014, 03:48 PM   #59
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Hope they can improve the following:

1. The steering feel further

2. Improve the sound that the car makes that does not go sort of flat after a certain point but rather more intense with each rising rpm a la S65 more than S55.

3. The rev nature needs to be more faster like S65 than S55.

4. Add CF in hood, fenders, roof, and trunk to drop weight lower,

5. Have proper brakes, and tires as wide as possible that they can stuff in rear to give more pronounced aggressive stance.

6. Improved gas mileage would also be a plus.

7. Bring back functional hood scoops a la E92 M3. To get extra cooling for hot turbo motor.


8. Keep price affordable.
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      07-23-2014, 03:54 PM   #60
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      07-23-2014, 04:03 PM   #61
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So if the 1m was around 47k what are we guessing the M2 will be?
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      07-23-2014, 04:09 PM   #62
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Oh God, here we go again... "No S-engine, no real M car".

Color me excited! Can't wait!
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      07-23-2014, 04:19 PM   #63
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Here we go again, just like in 2011 for the 1M Coupe

I've had my deposit down 1 month now and 1st at my dealership


hehe...i know....and good thing its at the other H-Town dealership.
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      07-23-2014, 04:19 PM   #64
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Perfect! Tanks for the info. It'll be a thought decision between this and the 981 cayman s!

One thing is for sure next car will be my very first real M car or my first Porsche .
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      07-23-2014, 04:29 PM   #65
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M2 could be the best M car ever!
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My guess is that the engine will be an N55-block but with two turbos, exactly like the Alpina did with its new B3. There is no way to control lag in an M-worthy manner with only one turbo at the 350+hp power level (would need quite large turbo).

The S55 engine block is too tuneable (closed deck) and would put M3/4 sales in jeopardy.

Also I think that the weight savings will be substantial (BMW can produce carbon fiber cheap with its new CFRP factories) but the power not much higher than the 1M (max. 340-350hp).
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