[stylinexpat]

Originally Posted by Guitarman15

I have 2015 m235 I use 93 and mostly in sport or sport plus and I get 13mpg

You live at the top of a hill or mountain? ?

[crabu2]

Originally Posted by omera60

I always do urban driving, some freeways but most with heavy traffic, being just a little bit more light on the throttle I manage to get 6.2lt/100km (37mpg) on Comfort mode. Given my car has a small engine it can be much more fuel efficient if I tried hard enough.

With the lower power, how do you manage to be even lighter on the go peddle, especially with mostly city driving?

Most of my miles was freeways... and I'm only getting 31 at best... Well, if I drop my speed down below 65mph, I can get like 33 or 34, but still.. I don't know how you're getting 37mpg with mostly urban driving.

You must have a diesel!

[Guitarman15]

Originally Posted by stylinexpat

You live at the top of a hill or mountain? ?

Hahaha no all city driving

[omera60]

Originally Posted by crabu2

With the lower power, how do you manage to be even lighter on the go peddle, especially with mostly city driving?

Most of my miles was freeways... and I'm only getting 31 at best... Well, if I drop my speed down below 65mph, I can get like 33 or 34, but still.. I don't know how you're getting 37mpg with mostly urban driving.

You must have a diesel!

Well to start with, looking at the BMW's values it seems smaller the engine more fuel efficient it is. For example, my Z3 2.8 also has a 6 cylinder and it's thirsty as hell, with the first quarter mark I get 76km which means it's roughly 20lt/100km (11mpg). I wonder if I go Eco Pro what would I end up with. The so called "secret" is to predict a situation from an early stage, for example; you can lift your foot of the throttle when coming to a red light and let the car use reganarative braking to slow you down and then press the brakes nearing the full stop. Coasting helps a lot as well, when you are at your desired speed ease on the throttle, don't let go, just enough to maintain the speed. You can also monitor your current consumption with the gauge that is below the tachometer (if you have the larger display on the dash, I don't know if you can on the regular one) that also helps with your throttle usage. Secondly, my transmission is the regular auto so it shifts much faster at lower rpms when I'm a bit light on the throttle, if I go hard on the throttle shift points are at high rpm range. For example when I'm driving with ISTA connected to the car, on transmission monitoring screen it shows that I'm in extreme economy mode. My car is a petrol one, getting the diesel for me would mean 1) Higher tax when buying the car 2) Just horrible noise from a sports car I don't know why can't you go to higher MPG's?

[crabu2]

Originally Posted by omera60

Well to start with, looking at the BMW's values it seems smaller the engine more fuel efficient it is. For example, my Z3 2.8 also has a 6 cyclometer and it's thirsty as hell, with the first quarter mark I get 76km which means it's roughly 20lt/100km (11mpg). I wonder if I go Eco Pro what would I end up with. The so called "secret" is to predict a situation from an early stage, for example; you can lift your foot of the throttle when coming to a red light and let the car use reganarative braking to slow you down and then press the brakes nearing the full stop. Coasting helps a lot as well, when you are at your desired speed ease on the throttle, don't let go, just enough to maintain the speed. You can also monitor your current consumption with the gauge that is below the tachometer (if you have the larger display on the dash, I don't know if you can on the regular one) that also helps with your throttle usage. Secondly, my transmission is the regular auto so it shifts much faster at lower rpms when I'm a bit light on the throttle, if I go hard on the throttle shift points are at high rpm range. For example when I'm driving with ISTA connected to the car, on transmission monitoring screen it shows that I'm in extreme economy mode. My car is a petrol one, getting the diesel for me would mean 1) Higher tax when buying the car 2) Just horrible noise from a sports car I don't know why can't you go to higher MPG's?

I was confused as to how you're able to get such good mpg.. so I looked up the specs..

EU/ADR82 urban/extra-urban/comb.:
6.3 / 4.4 / 5.1 l/100km
44.8 / 64.2 / 55.4 mpg (imp.)
37.3 / 53.4 / 46.1 mpg (U.S.)
15.9 / 22.7 / 19.6 km/l

Well, it seems you're getting what is factory rated.. What has me confused now is this urban/extra-urban thing..

To me, urban is city driving... and this extra urban is grid lock. I don't understand how they're rating fuel mileage over there.. Here, it's city or highway...

[MadOzodi]

I think extra-urban means "outside of" urban...like ordinary and extraordinary. Must be something lost in translation from German to English?

[3rdcoast228i]

Now that I've had a chance to test out MPGs, all I can say is I'm really impressed with the MPGs on my 228i.

Cruise control and eco pro nets me better than advertised MPG on the highway.

Even in comfort mode and not mpg friendly driving, its easy to get 33mpg.

[omera60]

Originally Posted by crabu2

I was confused as to how you're able to get such good mpg.. so I looked up the specs..

EU/ADR82 urban/extra-urban/comb.:
6.3 / 4.4 / 5.1 l/100km
44.8 / 64.2 / 55.4 mpg (imp.)
37.3 / 53.4 / 46.1 mpg (U.S.)
15.9 / 22.7 / 19.6 km/l

Well, it seems you're getting what is factory rated.. What has me confused now is this urban/extra-urban thing..

To me, urban is city driving... and this extra urban is grid lock. I don't understand how they're rating fuel mileage over there.. Here, it's city or highway...

Found this, hope it helps...

Urban Cycle
The urban test cycle is carried out in a laboratory at an ambient temperature of 20oC to 30oC on a rolling road from a cold start, i.e. the engine has not run for several hours. The cycle consists of a series of accelerations, steady speeds, decelerating and idling. Maximum speed is 31mph (50km/h), average speed 12mph (19km/h) and the distance covered is 2.5 miles (4km).
Extra-Urban Cycle
This cycle is conducted immediately following the urban cycle and consists of roughly half steady-speed driving and the remainder accelerations, decelerations, and some idling. Maximum speed is 75mph (120km/h), average speed is 39mph (63 km/h) and the distance covered is 4.3miles (7km).
Combined Fuel Consumption Figure
The combined figure presented is for the urban and extra-urban cycle together. It is therefore an average of the two parts of the test, weighted by the distances covered in each part.

Source: http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/faqs-fuel-consumptio.asp

[USA-RET]

Originally Posted by crabu2

I was confused as to how you're able to get such good mpg.. so I looked up the specs..

EU/ADR82 urban/extra-urban/comb.:
6.3 / 4.4 / 5.1 l/100km
44.8 / 64.2 / 55.4 mpg (imp.)
37.3 / 53.4 / 46.1 mpg (U.S.)
15.9 / 22.7 / 19.6 km/l

Well, it seems you're getting what is factory rated.. What has me confused now is this urban/extra-urban thing..

To me, urban is city driving... and this extra urban is grid lock. I don't understand how they're rating fuel mileage over there.. Here, it's city or highway...

I have a B46 4 cyl in my Mini S w/ JCW tune (so it's quite peppy and I test that peppiness quite a bit). I've been getting a constant 35.X MPG w/ mine.

Which is about 9 MPG better than my M240i.

I'm really happy w/ the mileage BMW motors provide.

[crabu2]

Here's something I don't get.. the ratings on the 218i look like hybrid numbers.. 37mpg city and 53 highway. It looks like the Europeans only drive down hill.

[kindofblue]

Originally Posted by MadOzodi

As far as MPG is concerned, I've never trusted what a car's ECU tells me. I zero my trip meter right after I fill the gas tank. At the next fill up, I divide what my trip meter shows by the number of gallons shown on the pump. I always finish filling the tank by hand, with as little flow as possible & listening for the sound of the gas moving up the filler tube and beyond that first auto-stop of the pump.

Yup, I'm on meds for that level of OCD.

BTW, in the first 3 weeks of owning my new-to-me car, I'm averaging 24mpg with roughly 60% hwy / 40% city driving, most of those being the morning and afternoon commute.

I used to do that kind of monitoring with prior cars but after comparing my calculations with those of the car, there weren't any differences so I stopped keeping track that way.

[kindofblue]

Originally Posted by crabu2

Here's something I don't get.. the ratings on the 218i look like hybrid numbers.. 37mpg city and 53 highway. It looks like the Europeans only drive down hill.

I can't find those mpg figures for either the 2017 or the 2018. Do you have a link for that data?

[crabu2]

Originally Posted by kindofblue

I can't find those mpg figures for either the 2017 or the 2018. Do you have a link for that data?

I got the numbers from this site..

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/ca...18i_coupe.html

[USA-RET]

Probably achievable w/ the 3 Cyl motor, running eco pro mode on a highway using Imperial gallon as the measurement.

I recall a video I watched when I was shopping the M2 vs. the M240i w/ the guy driving the M240i in Germany on business and mentioned like 46 MPG on the highway.

[omera60]

To be fair, it's still high compared to my Ford Focus Hatchback 1.6 tdci manual which was getting 3.6l/100km (65mpg). It was an incredible machine. I'm still happy with the result nevertheless as when I first got the car it was horrible on fuel consumption. I will be trying Eco Pro to see if I get any increase in mpg, will report back once I have the results...

[crabu2]

Originally Posted by USA-RET

Probably achievable w/ the 3 Cyl motor, running eco pro mode on a highway using Imperial gallon as the measurement.

I recall a video I watched when I was shopping the M2 vs. the M240i w/ the guy driving the M240i in Germany on business and mentioned like 46 MPG on the highway.

The 37/53 I mentioned were us gallons.. the imperial numbers are listed which are even higher..

what I don't get is how, even with a 3 cylinder, anything other than a motorcycle can get 37 mpg us.. we're talking about a 218 that weighs close to 3000 lbs. And we've got a member getting that number.

[USA-RET]

FWIW I'm getting 35.X MPG in my 2015 Mini S w/ a JCW engine tune (BMW B46 Motor). Do a fair amount of "sport mode, D/S" driving w/ mine too.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Guitarman15

I have 2015 m235 I use 93 and mostly in sport or sport plus and I get 13mpg

You live in a congested city, do all city driving, most drives are likely less than 10 miles (more than likely 5 miles or less; i.e., the motor rarely gets up to operating temp), you've got MPG sucking AWD, and you're stuck with heavily oxygenated NY 91 octane fuel. It's not surprising you're see quite low mpgs.

[stylinexpat]

Originally Posted by crabu2

Here's something I don't get.. the ratings on the 218i look like hybrid numbers.. 37mpg city and 53 highway. It looks like the Europeans only drive down hill.

Lol.. Start at the top of a mountain perhaps.