[PowerfulF22]

So, I am planning on doing a exhaust modification to my 2 series, but I am worried about voiding the warranty and losing my free service maintenance. Does exhaust modifications void your warranty?

[Dylan86]

Short answer is no.

What did you plan to do, exactly? "Exhaust Modification" is pretty broad..

[Wheelwright]

BMW dealers in Canada will jump at any pretext to void your warranty. The reason is because they will charge you 4times+ more for the same repairs out of pocket. This much gouging is simply too much to pass-up especially if you're not this dealer's frequent customer. And if you question their warranty denial good luck to you: there is no arbitration process with BMW in Canada (unlike other brands) and BMW Canada phone representative will promptly send you back to the dealer because he is completely useless & powerless. It is all a racket if you ask me.

[PowerfulF22]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

Short answer is no.

What did you plan to do, exactly? "Exhaust Modification" is pretty broad..

I am either getting a M Performance exhaust or a muffler delete

[PowerfulF22]

Originally Posted by Wheelwright

BMW dealers in Canada will jump at any pretext to void your warranty. The reason is because they will charge you 4times+ more for the same repairs out of pocket. This much gouging is simply too much to pass-up especially if you're not this dealer's frequent customer. And if you question their warranty denial good luck to you: there is no arbitration process with BMW in Canada (unlike other brands) and BMW Canada phone representative will promptly send you back to the dealer because he is completely useless & powerless. It is all a racket if you ask me.

If I install a M Performance exhaust which is made by BMW will they still do that?

[BEM-S4]

Get the MPE installed at the dealer. Problem solved.

[BMWZ4]

Originally Posted by Wheelwright

BMW dealers in Canada will jump at any pretext to void your warranty. The reason is because they will charge you 4times+ more for the same repairs out of pocket. This much gouging is simply too much to pass-up especially if you're not this dealer's frequent customer. And if you question their warranty denial good luck to you: there is no arbitration process with BMW in Canada (unlike other brands) and BMW Canada phone representative will promptly send you back to the dealer because he is completely useless & powerless. It is all a racket if you ask me.

I respectfully disagree, at least not ALL Canadian dealers...i have a stage 3 dinan tune and blew my charge pipe - replaced under warranty.

BMW logo on my driver air bag was fading/peeling...replaced under warranty.

Have another ~3 or 4 examples. My dealer has been awesome.

So while there may be a few out there, not ALL.

[Luftwaffe1O1]

If you get the MPE installed by them (as poster stated above), you will have no problem, as the part is also warrantied by BMW.

I would love to see them try and claim an OEM part they sold you voids your warranty.

[PowerfulF22]

Originally Posted by Luftwaffe1O1

If you get the MPE installed by them (as poster stated above), you will have no problem, as the part is also warrantied by BMW.

I would love to see them try and claim an OEM part they sold you voids your warranty.

Therefore, I am going to get my whole car's warranty voided if I do a muffler delete?

[pz619]

Originally Posted by PowerfulF22

Therefore, I am going to get my whole car's warranty voided if I do a muffler delete?

No.

A muffler delete will not void your suspension warranty. But may void warranties tied to powertrain. Muffler delete is pretty mild though.

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by pz619

No.

A muffler delete will not void your suspension warranty. But may void warranties tied to powertrain. Muffler delete is pretty mild though.

This. And any "cat-back" style performance exhaust cannot void your warranty. If you have a tune on your engine, THAT can void your warranty.

Kelowna BMW is a Dinan dealer, and they support respectful modifications. The SA's even give me credit for what I've done so far, and simply state "if something happens, make sure you take all of that stuff off before having it towed in". I'm not gonna bring it to BMW for service unless it's major, so that's my personal position with warranty and modding. I understand I'm liable for any damage caused by the mods, however they'd have to prove it as it would be in stock form when it gets towed in, if it were to ever happen.

[Rayscott]

I had a Dinan muffler put on. Mo warranty issues.

[BarryJI]

No problems here after getting the Dinan catback mod. None with engine and suspension mods either.

[PowerfulF22]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

This. And any "cat-back" style performance exhaust cannot void your warranty. If you have a tune on your engine, THAT can void your warranty.

Kelowna BMW is a Dinan dealer, and they support respectful modifications. The SA's even give me credit for what I've done so far, and simply state "if something happens, make sure you take all of that stuff off before having it towed in". I'm not gonna bring it to BMW for service unless it's major, so that's my personal position with warranty and modding. I understand I'm liable for any damage caused by the mods, however they'd have to prove it as it would be in stock form when it gets towed in, if it were to ever happen.

But even if I can put the stock muffler back on before going to the dealer, I can't erase the cut mark on my exhaust, right?

And you don't bring your car to the dealer for free services?

[pz619]

Originally Posted by PowerfulF22

But even if I can put the stock muffler back on before going to the dealer, I can't erase the cut mark on my exhaust, right?

And you don't bring your car to the dealer for free services?

If you are so worried about it then get the MPE. The reality is most likely no one cares if you have an axel back. Sure you might get the dealer here or there that makes a big deal, but it's not the norm. Plus what can an axel back break? It's mostly for sound.

I'd be more concerned if you had a full exhaust with downpipe. Then the dealership MAYBE has a foot to stand on if something fails in the powertrain (within reason). Even then, if your MAF sensor breaks they aren't going to point to your exhaust and say warranty denied.

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by PowerfulF22

But even if I can put the stock muffler back on before going to the dealer, I can't erase the cut mark on my exhaust, right?

And you don't bring your car to the dealer for free services?

I bring it in only for the free services, lol. Rotors and oil changes (have my own pads). And of course if I run into big trouble, out goes the JB4/intake/DP and off to the dealer (less than 3 hours worth of work to remove everything).

Exhaust mods won't hinder your warranty, and if anything, you should get the MP Exhaust and have the dealership install it, to avoid any issue down the line. Unless it's a lease which requires to be back in stock form, I can't ever see this becoming an issue, for anyone..

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

I bring it in only for the free services, lol. Rotors and oil changes (have my own pads). And of course if I run into big trouble, out goes the JB4/intake/DP and off to the dealer (less than 3 hours worth of work to remove everything).

Exhaust mods won't hinder your warranty, and if anything, you should get the MP Exhaust and have the dealership install it, to avoid any issue down the line. Unless it's a lease which requires to be back in stock form, I can't ever see this becoming an issue, for anyone..

You can turn a lease in with MPE although why you'd do that is beyond me. Typically they insist on OEM BMW parts and as-delivered or better.

[Benandluna]

I have a fabspeed sport cat and muffler delete. I got compliments on it. My dealer is mod friendly and Dinan friendly too.

[raleedy]

Yes, if you modify your exhaust and a headlight fails, or a window motor, you're screwed.

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by raleedy

Yes, if you modify your exhaust and a headlight fails, or a window motor, you're screwed.

que?

[PowerfulF22]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

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Do you know if Brian Jessel is mod friendly or not? I tried calling them but their service department is busy all the time

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by PowerfulF22

Do you know if Brian Jessel is mod friendly or not? I tried calling them but their service department is busy all the time

I have never had a chance to get in to their service dept, lol.. Every time I've been "in town" and wanted service, they were too busy, and I get it (big city volume).. One way to find out how they view mods is to chat with one of the SA's about Dinan, if they're a retailer or support the brand. Usually from that, the conversation about mods will spout in either direction (positive towards it, or not)..

Kelowna BMW is a Dinan dealer, and the staff there seem to know the difference between tasteful mods that won't be an issue. They basically suggest that if something major were to occur, that having it in stock form (no JB4/DP/Intake) , for diagnostic as it could easily be seen by an outside service claims "specialist".