[DF]

Originally Posted by Gabbby

Thanks. Selling it isn't an option for me.

From what people have said, I really hope that the acceleration "problem" will go away after the break in period. That is my only gripe. I love the look, the Colour combo, the compact size and the minimal tech.

I will probably get rid of the run flats as soon as one needs replacing.

I'd just thought I would have a stronger feeling for my very first new car.

Getting rid of the run flats should substantially change it. Not sure that will be enough but a good start. After that there are tons of mods you could do

[B_Rice]

I like her, but love would be a strong word. She looks good, drives well and is practical as hell. I have nothing but compliments about her, but she just isn't the one. Kind of like a really nice GF that you just won't ever marry.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Gabbby

I will check the pressure tomorow. I just took their word that it was correct. I'd thought run flats are noisier and it was the same when I tested a Mercedes with run flats.

I have been driving in comfort mode with sports of sport when it is not stop and go traffic only after I spoke to the delivery specialist. For about two days prior, I was playing around with sport and Eco mode and the gears for hills. I was told to leave those alone.

It is quiet for the most part and only seems to struggle when accelerating from stop... it goes up to 3000rpm-3500rpm sometimes but now I ease it slowly. On an uphill, I understand it takes more...for the test drive, I took it up the hill around my house and would have recalled the "struggle noise".

I couldn't have "damaged" it playing around in the first couple of days...and I do have a lead foot which I have been careful about after my call with the delivery specialist.

Tire pressure can be checked with the on-board monitoring system.

Drive the car in Sport+. Everything will be noticeably more responsive.

Remove the runflats and kill them with fire.

Buy the highest octane you can and buy it from quality stores, not Costco and the like.

[mrfattbill]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Tire pressure can be checked with the on-board monitoring system.

Drive the car in Sport+. Everything will be noticeably more responsive.

Remove the runflats and kill them with fire.

Buy the highest octane you can and buy it from quality stores, not Costco and the like.

I use Costco, they sell Top Tier Gas.

Bill

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by mrfattbill

I use Costco, they sell Top Tier Gas.

Bill

I wouldn't. Top Tier is pretty meaningless. It's largely a marketing thing. You're far better off going with a true petroleum company that develops the additives like Shell, BP, etc. and not someone like Costco, Walmart, grocery store chains, etc. who have no part in that and are going with the lowest bidder and bare minimal "Top Tier" requirements.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I wouldn't. Top Tier is pretty meaningless. It's largely a marketing thing. You're far better off going with a true petroleum company that develops the additives like Shell, BP, etc. and not someone like Costco, Walmart, grocery store chains, etc. who have no part in that and are going with the lowest bidder and bare minimal "Top Tier" requirements.

This is incorrect. Top Tier is far from a "marketing thing" (such as advertising for famous brand names). Top Tier has a specific metric of detergent requirements which some brands meet and others do not. It is far from meaningess...it's a standard which is beneficial to the user.

http://www.toptiergas.com/deposit-control/

The "marketing" part to avoid are the supposed oil company brands which do not meet the Top Tier requirements, but advertise and brand stations to convince folks their are offering the superior fuel product. Watch those stations...the fuel deliveries, like all others, are from local suppliers not of the corporate brand name. The branded and proprietary part is the detergent package added by the local station. BTW, BP and Shell both participate in Top Tier so the detergent package their stations add to the local supplier base fuel meet the same requirements as the Costco package added to their local supplier base fuel. The difference may be that the Costco stations are newer, so their underground tanks are less likely to have contamination or water intrusion due to age.

There is no such thing as "minimal Top Tier" either. The fuel either meets it or it does not. The various Mercedes, Audi, and BMW we have been running on Costco since they instituted Top Tier detergent package have all done well over the long run.

Final note....octane in excess of the engine's requirements is money poured down the drain with no benefit.

[3rdcoast228i]

Originally Posted by Gabbby

It has been about 3 weeks and I'm still figuring things out. I remember the test drive to be a bit quieter in the acceleration. I'm sure the demo car also had run flats but not sure about a sun roof. The weight of the sun roof can't make that much of a difference, right? My car is at about 350 km and the demo car was at about 90 km.

How long did it take for you to love your new car and was there a a-ha moment?

I love the terra interior and basically everything visual about it...except for the angular lines below the front fender.

I know that a few have said it, but make sure you are using good gas that meets the min octane rating if not more.

My car got much better once I got the dealer gas out and started using shell or chevron 93.

[megacondenser]

My 'a-ha' moment came when I left it and the keys at the M-B dealer and drove away in the C63 AMG on which I traded it. Actually it was more of an 'aaaaah' moment than an 'a-ha' - a big sigh of relief.

[wjones14]

Originally Posted by B_Rice

I like her, but love would be a strong word. She looks good, drives well and is practical as hell. I have nothing but compliments about her, but she just isn't the one. Kind of like a really nice GF that you just won't ever marry.

Same here. I did love the car at first - it was my first BMW after owning 3 Mustang GTs and 3 Camaro Z28s. I loved that it has a luxury ride AND handles at the same time. I love the overall quality of the car. I love the interior.

But I sort of fell out of love once it was broken in when I really noticed the turbo lag and the intrusive driver aids. Yes, you can turn most of the aids off, but you can't eliminate the turbo lag. Honestly the lag is not horrific, but the BMW turbo engine definitely does not have the instant throttle response and snap of a U.S. V8. It's enough of an annoyance that I'm seriously considering selling it to buy a Camaro SS 1LE.

[Gabbykat]

Originally Posted by wjones14

Same here. I did love the car at first - it was my first BMW after owning 3 Mustang GTs and 3 Camaro Z28s. I loved that it has a luxury ride AND handles at the same time. I love the overall quality of the car. I love the interior.

But I sort of fell out of love once it was broken in when I really noticed the turbo lag and the intrusive driver aids. Yes, you can turn most of the aids off, but you can't eliminate the turbo lag. Honestly the lag is not horrific, but the BMW turbo engine definitely does not have the instant throttle response and snap of a U.S. V8. It's enough of an annoyance that I'm seriously considering selling it to buy a Camaro SS 1LE.

I sold my Volvo stationwagon with turbo engine back in Feb and didn't recall any lag like this current one. So that sticks around? Is that supposed to be the experience of closer to the road feeling or what they call more responsive?

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

This is incorrect. Top Tier is far from a "marketing thing" (such as advertising for famous brand names). Top Tier has a specific metric of detergent requirements which some brands meet and others do not. It is far from meaningess...it's a standard which is beneficial to the user.

http://www.toptiergas.com/deposit-control/

The "marketing" part to avoid are the supposed oil company brands which do not meet the Top Tier requirements, but advertise and brand stations to convince folks their are offering the superior fuel product. Watch those stations...the fuel deliveries, like all others, are from local suppliers not of the corporate brand name. The branded and proprietary part is the detergent package added by the local station. BTW, BP and Shell both participate in Top Tier so the detergent package their stations add to the local supplier base fuel meet the same requirements as the Costco package added to their local supplier base fuel. The difference may be that the Costco stations are newer, so their underground tanks are less likely to have contamination or water intrusion due to age.

There is no such thing as "minimal Top Tier" either. The fuel either meets it or it does not. The various Mercedes, Audi, and BMW we have been running on Costco since they instituted Top Tier detergent package have all done well over the long run.

Final note....octane in excess of the engine's requirements is money poured down the drain with no benefit.

I work in the O&G industry on the environmental side of things. I know quite a bit about this subject with my dealings at numerous terminals across the country and working at numerous refineries. Stick to Shell, BP, and the like if you want the best additive packages and best running engine.

As for octane, these motors can most definitely take advantage of 93 octane, especially when temps climb above 60s.

Also, I more than I'd care to admit about underground storage tanks (UST). UST construction requirements that came into effect in the early 1990s required leak protection and detection systems. Water intrusion is a thing of the past. The only thing you should really be cautious of is to NEVER refuel at a store when the tanker is unloading. Significant sediment in the tank can be stirred up and some of it may not be captured by the inline filter at the pump.

[Hellrot]

I loved it BEFORE I bought it.

[bimmerfile]

Originally Posted by B_Rice

I like her, but love would be a strong word. She looks good, drives well and is practical as hell. I have nothing but compliments about her, but she just isn't the one. Kind of like a really nice GF that you just won't ever marry.

And yet,,,, you bought it.. Sort of like marrying that nice GF you said you'd never marry...

[B_Rice]

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

And yet,,,, you bought it.. Sort of like marrying that nice GF you said you'd never marry...

It's a lease, not a marriage.

[bimmerfile]

Originally Posted by B_Rice

It's a lease, not a marriage.

Ahhh, got it. Sorta like shacking up with the "really nice GF" you wouldn't want to marry..

[B_Rice]

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Ahhh, got it. Sorta like shacking up with the "really nice GF" you wouldn't want to marry..

Exactly

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by wjones14

Same here. I did love the car at first - it was my first BMW after owning 3 Mustang GTs and 3 Camaro Z28s. I loved that it has a luxury ride AND handles at the same time. I love the overall quality of the car. I love the interior.

But I sort of fell out of love once it was broken in when I really noticed the turbo lag and the intrusive driver aids. Yes, you can turn most of the aids off, but you can't eliminate the turbo lag. Honestly the lag is not horrific, but the BMW turbo engine definitely does not have the instant throttle response and snap of a U.S. V8. It's enough of an annoyance that I'm seriously considering selling it to buy a Camaro SS 1LE.

New Camaro is a huge upgrade over the last one, but I can't see getting rid of my 240i for one. I ran 12.39 with just JB4 on map 1, which is right there with a stock '16 SS. Add a catless downpipe, meth and a switch to map 2 and no stock/light bolt-on SS is touching me, slight turbo lag or not. The SS sounds amazing and is a huge improvement, but at the end of the day, it's still a Chevy with a Chevy interior and you still can't see out of it.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by B58togo

The SS sounds amazing and is a huge improvement, but at the end of the day, it's still a Chevy with a Chevy interior and you still can't see out of it.

I agree with this totally. I respect the new Camaro, but it's a Camaro. I had a 94 Z28 nearly two decades ago and I know what sort of "baggage" comes with a car like that. The 5th gen+ cars are an absolute pain in the butt to drive as well. Just utterly terrible on visibility. The only American V8 that I'd remotely consider if the 2 series cars weren't out would be a GT350. Ford is so much better at making the Stang more cleanly styled, useful, easier to see out of, higher quality interior materials, etc. The new Camaro looked dated the day it came out. Not the current gen Stang though, especially the GT350. Plus, it has that high revving V8 which you have to work. That's ideal, IMO.

With all that said, Camaros and Stangs are freaking everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE. I see maybe a couple 2 series cars every month and those are usually 228/230 convertibles.

[B58togo]

Yeah, the ubiquity of the Camaros/Mustangs is a big negative too. I've seen one M235i around my area, and no M240i's. Granted, I'm not in a big city, but I see the other cars non stop. Meanwhile, I'll continue to speak softly and carry a big stick. Gotta love a good sleeper.

[USA-RET]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I wouldn't. Top Tier is pretty meaningless. It's largely a marketing thing. You're far better off going with a true petroleum company that develops the additives like Shell, BP, etc. and not someone like Costco, Walmart, grocery store chains, etc. who have no part in that and are going with the lowest bidder and bare minimal "Top Tier" requirements.

Absolutely wrong!

[wjones14]

Originally Posted by B58togo

New Camaro is a huge upgrade over the last one, but I can't see getting rid of my 240i for one. I ran 12.39 with just JB4 on map 1, which is right there with a stock '16 SS. Add a catless downpipe, meth and a switch to map 2 and no stock/light bolt-on SS is touching me, slight turbo lag or not. The SS sounds amazing and is a huge improvement, but at the end of the day, it's still a Chevy with a Chevy interior and you still can't see out of it.

Until you go on a road course. Sorry, but you're not keeping up with a 6th Gen Camaro SS 1LE on the track. You saw the Car and Driver Lightning Lap results just like everyone else. The SS 1LE finished 7 seconds ahead of the M2! The 1LE beat the Audi V-10 R8 by almost 2 seconds, and was less than a second behind the Porsche Cayman GT4. Your M240i will see the 1LE tail lights on a road course, that's all there is to it, tune or not.

I want a car that's more like a race car. The dials on the M235i are tuned more to luxury than sport, while the 1LE is dedicated to one mission.

[rightrudder]

Originally Posted by B58togo

Yeah, the ubiquity of the Camaros/Mustangs is a big negative too. I've seen one M235i around my area, and no M240i's. Granted, I'm not in a big city, but I see the other cars non stop. Meanwhile, I'll continue to speak softly and carry a big stick. Gotta love a good sleeper.

Yeah, I also love the relative scarcity of the 2. I'm in the L.A. area (South Orange County) and I only see a few of them on the road per month. Respect the 2 for what it is...a great-looking, fine handling performance/luxury coupe. I never even considered an M2, as it's a little too brash for my personality. Gotta fly a little under the radar...