[CosmosMpower]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

leg room

S55, 500+ whp with just a tune.

[MaximusB]

http://jalopnik.com/new-bmw-m2-cs-wi...-an-1786921843

So basically a m3/m4 with a m2 body.

[Blksnowflake]

Oh fook. Let the F8X butt hurt begin.

I would def buy, too bad this will be harder to buy than a GTS.

[J.M]

That post sounds like misinformed speculation for so many reasons... not the least of which being that the M2 already has the suspension of the M3/M4.

I'm sure he got those rumours from bimmerpost :P

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

I agree,

As much as I would like a CS I'm ( I imagine the CSL will be too hardcore for my tastes ) not going to spend crazy money for bragging rights.I'd go an additional 15K Anything over and other models start to look attractive.

Also I can't really see the reason for BMW to stop production of the " regular " M2 when it's doing so well for them.Surely they'd be biting their nose off to only offer a high end version to a select few who had the prerequisite deeper pockets to acquire one.

Ahhhhhh! So this is what Porschephiles that owned a Cayman GTS two years ago sounded like !!!

A bunch of people that couldn't justify buying a Cayman GT4 for themselves, talking about how -"Ain't no way Porsche gonna make my car irrelevant ... That fast ..." .

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Ahhhhhh! So this is what Porschephiles that owned a Cayman GTS two years ago sounded like !!!

A bunch of people that couldn't justify buying a Cayman GT4 for themselves, talking about how -"Ain't no way Porsche gonna make my car irrelevant ... That fast ..." .

2014: "You mad, bro' ? Porsche would *never* do that. Would seriously piss me off if Porsche releases already early next year an even stronger Cayman than my brand new Cayman GTS decorating my driveway. Anyways, checked with my CA and he reassured me that he has not heard any such news as we speak. Don't believe all that jazz on the interwebs. Stop trolling, bro'."

February 2015 (less than a year after announcing the Cayman GTS): Porsche announces the Cayman GT4 and starts taking orders.

[RD85]

Car manufacturers have taken to the Apple/Mobile phone model for their enthusiast lines by releasing newer better cars every year or two. They know they'll sell, so why not.

Also Porsche, look at all the people who paid and waited for a 911R, then they (not officially yet) put out a 991.2 GT3 with a manual. A little backwards in that example, but considering the price people are paying for the R (or did anyway), it's pretty dickish, if it ends up being true.

And McLaren. "We'll only make 500 675LT's, coupe only" Then they a) don't number them, and b) release "500" more spiders. Then special editions for Chinese customers. And the P1 GTR, which will never be road legal. Then they have the LM upgrade available (maybe not officially through them though).

And on and on...

[Nine Lives]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Ahhhhhh! So this is what Porschephiles that owned a Cayman GTS two years ago sounded like !!!

A bunch of people that couldn't justify buying a Cayman GT4 for themselves, talking about how -"Ain't no way Porsche gonna make my car irrelevant ... That fast ..." .

Originally Posted by Artemis

2014: "You mad, bro' ? Porsche would *never* do that. Would seriously piss me off if Porsche releases already early next year an even stronger Cayman than my brand new Cayman GTS decorating my driveway. Anyways, checked with my CA and he reassured me that he has not heard any such news as we speak. Don't believe all that jazz on the interwebs. Stop trolling, bro'."

February 2015 (less than a year after announcing the Cayman GTS): Porsche announces the Cayman GT4 and starts taking orders.

Smoke and fire,none without the other perhaps

Several coming through in the inbox now...


http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...he-m3s-engine/

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...th-400-hp.html

http://www.autoworldnews.com/article...tically-m3.htm

I know....speculation

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

Smoke and fire,none without the other perhaps

Several coming through in the inbox now...


http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...he-m3s-engine/

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...th-400-hp.html

http://www.autoworldnews.com/article...tically-m3.htm

I know....speculation

Well, when the M4 stops production.. It sure sounds like a good place to pour some spare S55s will be into an M2 chassis ..

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

Smoke and fire,none without the other perhaps

Several coming through in the inbox now...


http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...he-m3s-engine/

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...th-400-hp.html

http://www.autoworldnews.com/article...tically-m3.htm

I know....speculation

Yeah, the rumor is everywhere now. It does make one wonder when so many news sources are running the story.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by J.M

That post sounds like misinformed speculation for so many reasons... not the least of which being that the M2 already has the suspension of the M3/M4.

I'm sure he got those rumours from bimmerpost :P

I agree 100% that this is rampant speculation, but the cited source is Bimmer Today.

http://www.bimmertoday.de/2016/09/19...it-400-ps-s55/

If (and that's a huge if) BMW introduce an M2 CS with the S55, it will be priced to protect the M3/4.

[PrematureApex]

Originally Posted by stren

1a - The N54 was still used for 135is, 335is and 1/M many years after it was replaced by the N55 in the mainstream x35 cars.

Nope, the 135is was an N55. The N54 was used in the Z4 35is whatever though, in addition to the 335is and 1M.

[PrematureApex]

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

330i and 335 are not the same model vehicle.

Oh come on, it's the "big 6" of the 3 series lineup. The situation was a bit different though I agree. The N54 simply wasn't ready for the U.S. in 2006, so BMW was forced to hold off for a year. In the case of the M2, the S55 was certainly able to be dropped in.

But yeah, '07 330 owners got shafted.

[stren]

Originally Posted by PrematureApex

Nope, the 135is was an N55. The N54 was used in the Z4 35is whatever though, in addition to the 335is and 1M.

Ah I assumed all the 35is's were the same lol.

[MerlinPurple]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Well, when the M4 stops production.. It sure sounds like a good place to pour some spare S55s will be into an M2 chassis ..

Plausible. That's kinda what happened when the E46M went out of production. The S54 found a new home in the Z4M Coupe.

[Euromeister]

How much more will they charge for a M2 CS ???? £ & $

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Euromeister

How much more will they charge for a M2 CS ???? £ & $

No-one knows. Officially the car does not even exist yet. But if this puppy ever hits the market and gets you M3/M4 performance (or even some oomph more), I cannot see it changing hands for less than M3/M4 money (might even be North of M3/M4 money if it's kept pretty exclusive).

And should BMW decide to walk the M4 GTS route: double the price of the base M2 and you won't be far off (or will they reserve that for an outright hardcore variant à la CSL, if ever ?).

All mere speculation right now. Do not take guesstimates with a pinch of salt, but with a kilo of salt.

[PackPride85]

I won't be butt hurt about my current M2 if this is a limited CS model since it would have been out of my price range anyway. Now if they dropped the S55 into the standard M2, gave it 400hp, and sold it for the same price I'd be pretty pissed. Highly doubt they would do that though.

[filet.M2c]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

I won't be butt hurt about my current M2 if this is a limited CS model since it would have been out of my price range anyway. Now if they dropped the S55 into the standard M2, gave it 400hp, and sold it for the same price I'd be pretty pissed. Highly doubt they would do that though.

I agree, there is no way they sell for lows 50s w/ an S55. Now if they sell them for say $62K I would be on it in a heartbeat. That may overlap with M4s too much, even though I would not consider an M4 I am sure a lot of their target audience might, so it may cannibalize sales. Anything in the $70s is iffy and $80K+ is no care for me. Oh and has to come in a MT.

[stren]

It depends what you would actually get with the CS. If it's really just some parts from the M4, then if the base M4 is mid 60's, then why should it be above that? My thought would be that it'll be 60-61. But of course if it's limited then it doesn't matter what BMW charge because the dealers will make it more.

My wishlist for a CS, 60k with S55 + full cooling even if detuned + competition pack seats + M4 carbon fiber stuff like the driveshaft and sway bar etc. I'd love the hommage style body too, but not willing to pay much more for that or I'll be priced out.

If they do go with the hommage body kit thang, I wonder if it'll be even wider so as to fit wider tires? Lastly would they have a euro option to remove rear seats and put in a roll bar?

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by stren

It depends what you would actually get with the CS. If it's really just some parts from the M4, then if the base M4 is mid 60's, then why should it be above that? My thought would be that it'll be 60-61. But of course if it's limited then it doesn't matter what BMW charge because the dealers will make it more.

My wishlist for a CS, 60k with S55 + full cooling even if detuned + competition pack seats + M4 carbon fiber stuff like the driveshaft and sway bar etc. I'd love the hommage style body too, but not willing to pay much more for that or I'll be priced out.

If they do go with the hommage body kit thang, I wonder if it'll be even wider so as to fit wider tires? Lastly would they have a euro option to remove rear seats and put in a roll bar?

Unless its a limited edition its going to cannibalize m4 sales which is what they were trying to avoid with the M2. The only way this makes sense is if its priced significantly higher than the base M2 and limited. A GTS model for something like $100k would make sense if it had a detuned M4 GTS motor in it and a bunch of CF bits.

[auf Deutsch]

I'm surprised by the number of people who lambasted the S55 because of the "cement mixer" sound. Now that it may be used in the M2 CS, people are gushing over it.

Keep in mind, they're predicting ~400 HP which is only ~35 more than the Civic M2. I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with a warrantied stage 4 tune making much more than 400 while keeping the sweet sound of the N55. Yes, a stage 4 tune with all associated FBO hardware may run close to $10k but that will most likely be (a lot) cheaper than a limited production CS.