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      05-12-2014, 08:45 AM   #67
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Perfect drop!
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      05-12-2014, 09:17 AM   #69
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Looks great!! Can't wait to see it with the VMRs. Spacers would make the stock setup look amazing.
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      05-12-2014, 02:18 PM   #71
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Looks good. Do you plan to add painted reflectors?
Got front painted ones on order!
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bouncy at all? All the 1-series cars I've ever driven on just lowering springs got so bouncy over time....not to say the suspension setup is the same, but just curious.
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bouncy at all? All the 1-series cars I've ever driven on just lowering springs got so bouncy over time....not to say the suspension setup is the same, but just curious.
Once I get some more miles on the springs to sort of break them in, I'll update on how they feel.
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      05-12-2014, 07:56 PM   #74
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      05-13-2014, 06:28 AM   #75
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      05-13-2014, 06:52 AM   #76
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Wow looks great. Wheel , brake, drop combo is great.
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      05-13-2014, 02:06 PM   #77
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Wow, that really does look to be nearly perfect! That's exactly the height I would go for.
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Agree 1000%
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Trying to figure out the purpose, even an aesthetic purpose
well he has lowered the center of gravity... has he not, wouldnt that give his car better handling to any extent? or its negligible?
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Prefer stock. And it's not possible to alter the ride height and spring rate by that much and have no degradation in ride quality. Maybe you didn't notice it, or it doesn't bother you, but it's there.
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Agree 1000%
The 235 is a stubby kinda car... that roof line is a bit high, and for those that have driven it, do you feel like you 'sit' inside the car kinda 'high'?

The windshiels is kinda high too, would have wanted BMW to push the windshield forward by 1-1.5 inches more than it currently is, then be able to tilt it back at a lower angle... ala 'cab forward' design that chrysler marketed in the 90's which basically Honda had for years before that, like the NSX... and thus the roofline could be lower by 1 inch... is all id be asking bmw for....

but my point, or question, the drop made by the spring install alone... which btw, for those of you that looked carefully and see the front drop is a tad more than the rear... I do agree after it was pointed out.

do you guys in this exploration, simply dont recommend swapping out springs without also swapping in shocks/struts matching the new springs then, if you care about ride quality degradation?

For me, if the roofline was 1 inch lower than present, i wouldnt fancy a spring drop, and the relatively large wheel well gaps with the stock rims, i'd just get larger rims / wider tires to 'fix' instead of lowering springs.

Larger rims and lower profile tires to do the 'fill in' job won't impact the ride quality as much as that 1 inch drop via springs (only) is this generally agreed?
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I read a very detailed interview awhile back by one of the M guys at BMW responsible for the 235i adaptive suspension. It sounded like it was tightly tuned for the car. I know from talking with some *very* tweaky suspension experts, that adding spacers, changing wheel size or any similar changes can dramatically impact the calibration of the system.

The drop may not work for everyone, but looks sorta boss to me. (Viva la difference!) I'm sure the ride feels reasonable too. Just wondering if any sort of re calibration of the dampening or other components can/should be done to optimize the spring change? Any serious suspension experts care to comment?
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Nice work. Can't wait for your feedback on how it rides once they've broken in!
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      05-14-2014, 03:52 AM   #82
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bouncy at all? All the 1-series cars I've ever driven on just lowering springs got so bouncy over time....not to say the suspension setup is the same, but just curious.
it def will be! since you keep the stock dampers which cause this problem!
and when you get lowering springs it will be worse.
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After putting some more miles on the car, the springs do feel a bit bouncier now, but not something that is really noticeable. I only experience the suspension bounce of the car in certain road conditions, otherwise it feels just like stock. I can't say if the car handles any better though (if it does, then it will be a small difference) since I haven't been back to the track with the springs.
I'm used to daily driving my GT3 and R35 GTR (with KW suspension), so the ride quality of this car even with the springs is obviously much better than those two cars, so my perspective might not really match up with the users on this forum who are looking for maximum comfort, in which case, you shouldn't be modifying your suspension/exhaust/etc anyways.
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perfect drop... looks great!
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      05-14-2014, 07:28 PM   #85
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Edit* found your other thread.
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      05-15-2014, 09:30 AM   #86
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Just got back from European Auto Source again with another update for you guys!

This time, I bring you (possibly) the first set of H&R Sport Springs installed on the M235i in the states! It's been a long wait since I ordered them, but the drop is just perfect IMO. Not too aggressive, but just enough to look lowered.

The experts at European Auto Source didn't seem to have any issues installing the springs, so it looks to be a straightforward install (having the right tools and knowledgeable people helps). I was in and out in a couple hours.

I didn't notice any difference with the ride quality on the drive home (which consists of smooth to very rough/bumpy surfaces at low and highway speeds), so that's a plus!
Update: After adding some more miles on the car, the ride seems to be a bit bouncier, but nothing I would write home about. I'm also used to cars like the GT3 and GTR (I daily drove them at some point), so take my reporting with a grain of salt.

But enough words, I'll let the photos do the talking!

The springs:
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Before (side view):
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After (side view):
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Before (front wheel):
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After (front wheel):
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Before (rear wheel):
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After (rear wheel):
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More after photos:
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After setting in a tiny bit:

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Once again, I'd like to thank the guys at eAs for a job well done and their great customer service! If you guys are looking for springs for your M235i, hit them up!
Dude looks PERFECT! I need to drop my ///M3 a bit lol I love the look!
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how much clearance do you have now? looks like only a few inches to that front air dam?
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      05-16-2014, 11:24 AM   #88
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I am the minority here, I like stock better.
I do too, barely. I also like not spending the money and not taking the depreciation hit or having to remove everything when I sell it later.

I think adding springs to a base or other non-sport-tuned version of a car is a great upgrade. There is a thin line somewhere between better stance and too low. This one flirts with it in front, though the rear looks nice.
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