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      01-25-2014, 10:30 AM   #1
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Has anyone else noticed that the seat leather looks a bit loose in some of the 2 series pics we've seen? I'll give an example below, but I have noticed this multiple times in photos from different sources: Detroit, photos/reviews from the Vegas debut, etc. It seems like the most typical culprits are both the driver and passenger seat backs, as well as the driver side seat base and "butt bolsters."

I understand this will be typical wear and tear eventually and that some of these cars have had reviewers and gawkers climbing in and out of them at rates higher than any consumer car would ever experience. Yet I'm a little concerned, because still, these cars are presumably pretty low mileage and newly removed from a production line somewhere. I wonder how it will look in 2-3 years?

Can anyone who has seen the cars in person shed light on this? If you did notice it, what kind of mileage did the cars have? Anyone else notice it in pictures?

For example, this 228 w/ coral red leather, upper passenger seat back where the right shoulder would sit:



And here, while the left butt bolster wrinkle isn't too bad, the upper left side seat bolster appears to be stuffed with marbles:



Again, I admit this post is nitpicking, and I don't think these are the most egregious examples. But it's not about now, it's about later, and I think it's a fair question- how long until the interior makes this car feel more dated than it should with leather sagging and wrinkles?

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      01-25-2014, 11:39 AM   #2
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I think you are looking at shadows. Not one reviewer has mentioned this probably because it doesn't exist.
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I think you are looking at shadows. Not one reviewer has mentioned this probably because it doesn't exist.
Possibly, and I admit it's not a huge deal. But when all you have is a bunch of stationary pics to pore over, you tend to notice things that might get overlooked by people who are preoccupied with actually driving the thing.

Could be shadows. To me, from multiple angles, it looked like ripples in the leather on the upper passenger seat back where the right shoulder would sit.





Either way, I think it's a valid question: has anyone had a chance to sit in the car? How did it feel compared to the 1 series, and what are your impressions on how the seats will hold up?
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Op got a good eye, i wouldnt be surprise if they cheap out on the leather...BMW always been good with their leathers so i wouldnt worry too much
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Op got a good eye, i wouldnt be surprise if they cheap out on the leather...BMW always been good with their leathers so i wouldnt worry too much
Yeah, I have faith that it won't be an issue. I've just been reading over some past threads with older BMWs where people had issues with leather sagging. Most of the time it seems to be an issue with the underlying padding where after time the padding loses its spring back, which gives the leather room to sag and crease.

By the look of it, the 2 series seats look a little firmer/less plush than the 1 series seats, which is a good sign. We shall see I guess.
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Has anyone else noticed that the seat leather looks a bit loose in some of the 2 series pics we've seen? I'll give an example below, but I have noticed this multiple times in photos from different sources: Detroit, photos/reviews from the Vegas debut, etc. It seems like the most typical culprits are both the driver and passenger seat backs, as well as the driver side seat base and "butt bolsters."

I understand this will be typical wear and tear eventually and that some of these cars have had reviewers and gawkers climbing in and out of them at rates higher than any consumer car would ever experience. Yet I'm a little concerned, because still, these cars are presumably pretty low mileage and newly removed from a production line somewhere. I wonder how it will look in 2-3 years?

Can anyone who has seen the cars in person shed light on this? If you did notice it, what kind of mileage did the cars have? Anyone else notice it in pictures?

For example, this 228 w/ coral red leather, upper passenger seat back where the right shoulder would sit:



And here, while the left butt bolster wrinkle isn't too bad, the upper left side seat bolster appears to be stuffed with marbles:



Again, I admit this post is nitpicking, and I don't think these are the most egregious examples. But it's not about now, it's about later, and I think it's a fair question- how long until the interior makes this car feel more dated than it should with leather sagging and wrinkles?
I have these exact seats in my 125d. You are exactly right about the loose leather. It was like that from New. Also the sides are starting to wear after only 12000 miles.
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I think the red ones look horrible and I'd have a complete issue IF that were my car.

I'd make sure it was addressed before I left the dealer day one.
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I am not expecting the world from the seats - the Dakota leather in my E82 is nothing special. I think I would actually prefer the leatherette, but you can't do that and get the dimming mirrors (requires premium, and leather is part of that).
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Agree it seems to look loose on a lot of the F32/32 cars too. The side bolsters I can sort of understand on the seat backs are these pheumatically inflate/deflate. Treads on here talk about a hot iron over a cotton tea towel solving...but you shouldn't have to really!
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