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Its nice to have a temp gauge but it isnt a deal breaker either. If the car overheats you get a CEL warning and you pull over...so if you do have a temp gauge and it gets to high temps, now what? Same shit you just pull over
Is not like you can dial on the gauge and the temp will lower lol
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I agree and I want a temp gauge as much as I want an oil dipstick but these oldskool items might never comeback with new technology and every freakin thing has a sensor now
If we took all the sensors from the car amd weight them...thats prbly 200lbs worth of junk
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Just take a look at the previous posts and there's information about accessing a hidden menu to access the temperature readouts. |
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Most of us are simply looking to know when the car is warmed up and it helps to know this with a temperature gauge - that's it. Having the car's ecu reading and controlling everything for us doesn't tell us when the car is warmed up. |
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From an article in Road & Track boys....
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...2014-bmw-m235i A dash with an inferiority complex Speaking of silly, the M235i displays "M235i" on the LCD of its gauge cluster at all times. And it has horsepower and torque gauges in the center screen. But it has no way of telling you that the oil is so cold it has ice crystals in it. Or, on the other hand, that the engine oil is hot enough to fry a turkey. (Yeah, I’m going there again.) You have no way of knowing when launch control is going to work. Go to the racetrack, and half the time, the dash says "Launch Control Active," but the car performs a seven-second 0–60. Which we can only presume is because the engine is hot. But we’ll never know now, will we? I want to smack someone over this.
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Today I got a 435i, but the temp gauge wasn't the major deciding factor..However, it was kinda crazy/stupid that the 235i didn't have a temp gauge.. Still, I love both cars..
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Impressive. I don't see any hardware changes from previous N55 cars, but maybe they've made subtle changes. I'll be curious to see how they hold up at the track in summer temps.
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Not summer temps (we don't have summer in the uk lol) but I wrote this a while back:
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=966798 |
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ENOUGH! Vote with your wallet, that is the only power that we have and those of you that are appeasing BMW by paying top dollar for watered down M or M-ish cars are feeding this change. So I applaud the poster for voting with his wallet and while many of you look at him(us) as strange, one day this might make the difference as to what sort of car you get from BMW in the future. For me, passing on the M235i was a lot of things: IDrive mandatory, power seats mandatory, active sound mandatory, active suspension mandatory, weak engine sound, no Alcantara/cloth option like in Europe but the last straw for me was replacing the temp gauge with an M235i badge. I can't understand how so many of you don't see how lame this is. They didn't replace it temp gauge with something useful, purposeful, performance or safety related item. They replaced the TEMP gauge with something so vain, useless and fluffy like an M235i logo. That is the direction BMW is taking to keep you satisfied. For those of us that want the ultimate driving machine, not the ultimate fluff machine, all we can do now is vote with our wallets. Bravo to Original Poster! I thank you! |
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I went ahead an install a Bluetooth OBDII transmitter attached to the port. I have installed Torque App on my phone and now get Water Temperature via big dial on my 5.8" phone screen.
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As to waterpump and thermostat lifespan, I plan to preemptively replace them at the 100K mark. Given many cars have waterpumps replaced at around that mileage as part of a timing belt service, I don't find this to be a particularly bothersome issue. I also don't expect premature failure. My car is not a turbo, I don't live in a hot climate, and it is near never driven other than on highway trips, no stop-and-go. It seems fairly evident from the pattern of failures that heat is the big issue for the pumps. Both my favorite indy garage here and the local dealer very, very rarely see failures before 100K. And at my current rate of adding miles, 100K will be around 2023.
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yes, the plastic expansion tank will crack by 80K and leak coolant and you will not get a warning light. Neither will your plastic BEHR radiator when the hose neck cracks off. Here is a real world example of how a temp gauge can work. I know because this happened to me. I am on a highway and slow down for traffic. I see the temperature needle work it's way up. There is nowhere safe to stop. As traffic clears and I try to make an offramp, the car is moving and the temp goes down. I keep driving and temp stays normal. I figure it must be the fan. I keep driving on the highway and get off on an offramp near my house, pull over and I am 5 minutes from home. The temp gauge made all the difference between being stranded 30 miles from home or 2 miles. It was the auxiliary fan that that froze. Also, to what others have said about it not being that accurate, that is true but it is accurate enough to tell you when your engine is toasting and that's what we care about. Not to mention all the other things in written in the review. As I said in the previous post, there was no reason drop it. It was not replaced by anything more or even as useful. It doesn't take away from the 235i being a great car still but you have to call a spade a spade. What's more disheartening is that if you say that adding an M badge and dropping an engine temp gauge is dumb, you are just labeled as a hater and should just be disregarded because haters hate or some stupid thing like that. Those of us that disagree are not haters....we are LOVERS! It's like your 15 year old sister tells you that she wants to a full body tatoo and 6 piercing and you tell her you love her and don't think that is a smart thing then many of you guys would just say......ignore your brother that, he's just a hater, we love you more because we don't say anything about your complicating your life down the road.... We do the hard things like that because we love our sister and we love BMW M cars. Last edited by nachob; 06-09-2014 at 01:09 AM.. |
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