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      09-24-2014, 10:13 AM   #309
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I agree, though I'd contend that the smaller overall dimensions and shorter wheelbase do make for a sportier driving experience, all thing being equal.

A few things I'd hope/expect to see on the M2:
  • Carbon fiber roof
  • Lighter flywheel
  • Lowered, stiffened suspension
  • Limited slip differential
  • 350+ HP
  • Premium price

In other words, the same things the M4 has.

Of all the things listed, the lighter flywheel may be the most important. It's the secret sauce of any M powertrain (assuming you go with the 6MT).
I don't expect nor think they should do carbon roof. It makes it expensive and then it really would be not very different from M4. They need to keep the cost down for trackers and younger end. They can keep more weight down by just offering manual seats, no folding mirrors, no idrive, etc. It would be nice if they did all of this and carbon roof, but if choice was one or the other, I prefer just a stripper more focused version.

You make a great point on the flywheel. It is a key component that came on the 1M. Lightened flywheels spool faster than heavy ones but they also transmit more engine vibration. A heavier flywheel absorbs much of this and seems smoother and more comfortable. So I wonder which side BMW M will fall on with the M2? Already, they went comfortable on the 2 and 3 series suspension. If they follow the current trend, I don't see a lightened flywheel.

Now for those that work in a boolean world where the discussion can only be cushy or track car, we are not talking much more vibration! BMWs use dual mass flywheels which already dampen a lot of the vibration.
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Thought it would be fun to revisit this thread now that the M2 is out.

Some people - like nachob - were really close on how the car would turn out.
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Twin turbos and hydraulic steering vs twin scroll and electronic steering maybe? idk. :/
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Only thing big thing I miss about my N54 135i, is the steering feel. I havent thrashed my M235i in the corners too much but already I notice the differene. I think the M235i steering feels accurate but not as good as the 135i.
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Never got a chance to drive a 135, but from what I'm hearing is that it feels more "connected"? I hear this a lot especially with German sub models..

I'd imagine a set of lowering springs, engine mounts and adding some more camber would change your opinion on the F22's chassis itself. The numbers are that much better, on paper.
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Never got a chance to drive a 135, but from what I'm hearing is that it feels more "connected"? I hear this a lot especially with German sub models..

I'd imagine a set of lowering springs, engine mounts and adding some more camber would change your opinion on the F22's chassis itself. The numbers are that much better, on paper.
It might have helped - I am sure it would have. But...the car was a lease and I didn't see the value in making a bunch of changes to a car I knew I wouldn't keep too long one way or another.

Stock N54 135 > stock 235, at least in the completely subjective "feel" category, and from my perspective.

I was originally intending to wait for the M2, but got impatient and went another direction entirely.
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