[SebringS2k]

are there any diffs between the 228i m-sport 6mt and the m235i 6mt? also, can any previous e92 335i 6mt owners opine?

I currently have a '08 e92 335i 6MT and the throws are definitely long...considering 228i m-sport 6MT

[golf4501]

Originally Posted by SebringS2k

are there any diffs between the 228i m-sport 6mt and the m235i 6mt? also, can any previous e92 335i 6mt owners opine?

I currently have a '08 e92 335i 6MT and the throws are definitely long...considering 228i m-sport 6MT

You can do a search on it, as it has been discussed, but yes the transmission is different between the 235 and the 228.

[kerm1t]

Originally Posted by grp2c

I'm coming from an s2000. It feels just as good as that with a little more clunk when putting it into to a gear.

same here. sold my s2k for this. but boy is the m235i notchy. I thought the s2k was bad...

[mathis.]

not to thread jack but is the gear leaver really low like it was on the 135? where if you rested your arm on the arm rest you had to reach down to change gear?

[Wheelwright]

Originally Posted by mathis.

not to thread jack but is the gear leaver really low like it was on the 135? where if you rested your arm on the arm rest you had to reach down to change gear?

I have M235i and the center console with gear lever appears higher than in 128i I previously owned. It bothered me at the beginning (I don't use armrest) so I had to raise the seat.

[Tbkbabab]

I've just fitted the M performance gear knob and it is slightly shorter than the standard one so not only lower but slightly shorter throw.

[bman6074]

I just test drove an m235i manual and the shifts are much shorter then my current 135i. Is this stock? Or is there a short shifter performance option? I didn't see one when i ordered.

[2msport]

Originally Posted by golf4501

You can do a search on it, as it has been discussed, but yes the transmission is different between the 235 and the 228.

I'm curious as to where you've read the manual transmissions are different. I've read virtually every post comparing the two and every time the driver states they feel exactly the same.

[golf4501]

Originally Posted by G228msport

I'm curious as to where you've read the manual transmissions are different. I've read virtually every post comparing the two and every time the driver states they feel exactly the same.

There is a search option on the board.....

But here are the transmissions:

M235 - ZF GS6-45BZ THY8
228i - ZF GS6-17BG TAU0

Looks different to me

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by golf4501

There is a search option on the board.....

But here are the transmissions:

M235 - ZF GS6-45BZ THY8
228i - ZF GS6-17BG TAU0

Looks different to me

Yes, the part numbers are different as they mate up with different engines so they are not interchangeable. But, do we have good information that the driving experience (shifter feel, throw, etc) is or is not different?

[2msport]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Yes, the part numbers are different as they mate up with different engines so they are not interchangeable. But, do we have good information that the driving experience (shifter feel, throw, etc) is or is not different?

That's what I understood from all of the comparisons. That they do have the same feel.

And that's a good point. Can't expect them to be the same exact part when connecting to two different engines.

[2msport]

Member Dalrx (just drove a 228 thread)

"Never drove a 228 auto but last yr had a 320i with auto it was ok but I don't like autos. The 6 speed man is a dream the same feel shift bewtween 235 and 228 really smooth short throw. Coming from my 128 it is smoother and not as notchy. First thing I notice with n20 engine is the mid range torque...seems way more than the 1er. Steering is pretty light in eco pro but in sport mode it firms up pretty good..a little less road feel than the 1er but not enough of anything to make me regret anything. I love the msport wheel the feel in the hands! First gear only to get going 2nd is where it happens I can get it going real good revs here and just feel the torque. Engine sound is not as throaty as the m235..but you feel the torque Wjen you stamp nonetheless. For and finish are impeccable thing stops on a dime and real comfortable. Stock radio sort of crap ...Harmon karden does much better. All in all a great step up from my prev 1er"

One example.

[scrape1]

Originally Posted by grp2c

I'm coming from an s2000. It feels just as good as that with a little more clunk when putting it into to a gear.

I owned a 2002 S2000 until 2011, which I then traded for an '11 Evo X, which has on this past Saturday been replaced with a 228i.

From what I remember, and keep in mind it has been years, the clutch on the 228 feels very similar, but I think the pedal feels considerably softer than the S2000, and softer still than the Evo. I think the shifting feels smoothest on the 228. The S2000 might have had a slightly shorter throw, but I am not 100% sure on that. I think the synchros on my S2k had been somewhat worn when I got the car, so there was some clunk and resistance in a couple of the gears. Especially second. Both cars are miles ahead of the Evo X on terms of the shift smoothness. There was nothing buttery about that transmission.

[scrape1]

I have a 6 speed 228i. Overall, I am very pleased with the feel. Shifting is very smooth, and the clutch engages much quicker than the only other manual BMW I have driven before, an E46 330i 5 speed. I did test drive the 8 speed auto, and the acceleration from stand still feels stronger than the 6 speed. I guess that makes sense since the first 2 gear ratios are lower in the auto. So there is a definite trade off there.