[jbenington86]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Uh-oh...if you know your automotive history, that's a bad omen! Must be a sister ship to the better-known Rusty Vega!!

I highly doubt my car would of made it into this ship. Reason being it was less than a day after payment.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by jbenington86

I highly doubt my car would of made it into this ship. Reason being it was less than a day after payment.

Just a joke regarding the Chevrolets of the early 70s......the name "Vega" has a special place in hell for car-lovers.

[shark715]

No shortage of 235's here in New Jersey. The two closest dealers to me have 3 and 4 respectively on the lot ready for immediate delivery, more in transit, and are willing to discount significantly. If you want to special order, they say they are experiencing about 8 weeks from order to delivery.

[abp689]

Originally Posted by shark715

No shortage of 235's here in New Jersey. The two closest dealers to me have 3 and 4 respectively on the lot ready for immediate delivery, more in transit, and are willing to discount significantly. If you want to special order, they say they are experiencing about 8 weeks from order to delivery.

What does "discount significantly" mean; would appreciate a PM.

[shark715]

No need for a PM, there's no secret here. At least here in New Jersey multiple dealers are selling at more than 8% off MSRP on Truecar without even negotiating. No reason you can't get 10% off with a little effort, and if you are good at playing dealers off against each other you should be able to do even better...just know who owns each dealer. Here in NJ there are a least a couple of examples where the same people own multiple BMW dealerships. For example, Open Road in Edison and Morristown BMW are the same owner, so you won't get far playing them off each other.

[MrBucket]

Originally Posted by shark715

No shortage of 235's here in New Jersey. The two closest dealers to me have 3 and 4 respectively on the lot ready for immediate delivery, more in transit, and are willing to discount significantly. If you want to special order, they say they are experiencing about 8 weeks from order to delivery.

I bought mine from BMW of Tenafly back at the end of July. At the time I completed the purchase, they only had 1 other M235i which is a pretty stripped out example in Mineral Grey with the 8 speed automatic. They still have that same M235i right now, and they are supposedly getting in 2 xDrive very soon. I'm pretty sure that mine is the only 6MT M235i that they have got in since the 2 series became available. I've also never seen another M235i on the road even driving around a decent portion of Bergen County. I've seen maybe 3-4 228i since I got my car, and 3 of them have been white.

Where are you seeing all of these other M235i around here?

[shark715]

Originally Posted by MrBucket

Where are you seeing all of these other M235i around here?

Bridgewater has 3 on the lot and JMK has 4 in stock. My guess is the situation has changed over the last several months and the "pipeline" is filling. If they also made a 4 door version (of course under the new model designations they can't) I think you would see a lot more on the road (just my opinion)

[danimal]

I've seen very few 2 Series in San Diego, maybe 5? I did park next to a mineral gray M235i in a strip mall parking lot in Point Loma this evening, though. Wondering if it was someone from here.

Anyway, if the 2 Series is rare because of low supply rather than low demand, that's a good thing. If demand is too low, BMW would have to discontinue it.

[335BOY]

Originally Posted by Midwest X6

As someone who's bought many 3 and 5 series over the years I can tell you I bought it more for the name. I bought them because they drove better than their counterparts and offered me size, lux and other attributes I prioritized when making those choices. I'm sure many other 3 and 5 series owners would agree with me. The 2 ain't the only drivers BMW there is..

Mix up some words here?

[rosenbergendo]

In Florida I just paid MSRP-1300 over invoice.

[MikeT]

Originally Posted by danimal

If demand is too low, BMW would have to discontinue it.

Seems like much more of an issue of low supply.

If I get this car, I'll probably do ED, but I've been keeping an eye on the local inventory where I live (Bay Area). Most dealers only have 1 or 2 of these cars, and they move quickly.

The rare cases of cars not selling are probably due to poor configurations. One dealer, for example, is still sitting on a very loaded '14 228i. That can happen with any car, but especially one like the 2-series. When you get up to $44K on a 228i, a lot of folks are going to scratch their heads and say, 'Hey, wait a minute. I can get a base M235i for the same money.'

[crqflier]

I just got an email from BMW Fairfax, $5,000 off msrp on all 2 series. Seems like a big imbalance compared to the situation in SoCal.

[shark715]

Originally Posted by rosenbergendo

In Florida I just paid MSRP-1300 over invoice.

did you pay $1300 over invoice, or $1300 under MSRP?

[shark715]

Originally Posted by crqflier

I just got an email from BMW Fairfax, $5,000 off msrp on all 2 series. Seems like a big imbalance compared to the situation in SoCal.

Maybe SoCal's a while behind us in filling pipeline? It takes much longer for European cars to arrive there as they go all the way around through the Panama Canal.

[shark715]

Originally Posted by crqflier

I just got an email from BMW Fairfax, $5,000 off msrp on all 2 series. Seems like a big imbalance compared to the situation in SoCal.

BTW, if anyone can really get $5000 off MSRP on a lightly optioned 228, that's a great price!

[shark715]

In fact, I just did the math and it seems impossible as they would not only be well under invoice, it would be under dealer cost. Perhaps the ad refers only to cars they have in stock, and everything they have in stock is heavily optioned?

[abp689]

Originally Posted by danimal

Anyway, if the 2 Series is rare because of low supply rather than low demand, that's a good thing. If demand is too low, BMW would have to discontinue it.

Maybe. But I believe the 2 will remain a low volume sales model.

1) In the pricing thread (and sharks comments above), it seems dealers are discounting the 2 series a fair amount. If demand was outstripping supply, it seems unlikely dealers would discount too much from MSRP.

2) I am not sure what the 1 series sales were in comparison to the 3 series, but I see far more 3 series than 1 series. While the 2 series improved many things over the 1 (understand opinions vary), I would expect a similar sales ratio between the 2 and 3 series.

[NY10]

I'm curious to see what happens when the 2 series convertible drops this winter

[2.0T]

I've only seen one here in NY, a mineral grey M235 w CT plates. Mine should be here in about 2 weeks.

[chaswyck1]

I live in what is arguably the car capital of the world, Southern CA, and I have yet to see a 2 Series on the road.

[cram501]

Originally Posted by shark715

In fact, I just did the math and it seems impossible as they would not only be well under invoice, it would be under dealer cost. Perhaps the ad refers only to cars they have in stock, and everything they have in stock is heavily optioned?

I received the same email from BMW of Fairfax. It is $5000 off in stock items. They have 2 M235i in stock and a few other 2-series.

[NY10]

Originally Posted by 2.0T

I've only seen one here in NY, a mineral grey M235 w CT plates. Mine should be here in about 2 weeks.

I've seen one mineral grey M235 with NY plates on LI

I am the only person with a 228i that I have seen in NY