07-07-2014, 11:33 AM | #23 | |
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If I wanted a bit more power for $6,000 more money, I would have bought the AMG. The reality is if you love BMWs AND you're a little drunk with power the N55 engine with a piggyback is easy, cheap and reversible. People might see Dinan at time of resale and say "oooh!", but more will say "uh-oh"... Nobody even has to know you ever had a JB4 on the car. |
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07-07-2014, 12:36 PM | #24 | |
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Not sure I agree with "you'll be fine". Hey in the end its your car and you can have the guy next door tune it if you'd like. I personally think its not a wise decision but that's just me. I think an assumption you are making is that all cars are the same which is not the case. What if there was a defective part accidentally installed on the car. Then you go and tune it... you run it rich and something happens. Would you be "Fine" then? No I think you'd be paying a pretty penny to have the car fixed. That would suck in my book. And that would be a direct result of going cheap. |
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07-07-2014, 12:43 PM | #26 | |
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With today's technology I dont see how this is possible. But I'm not a BMW engineer. I would love to hear from one on this topic. Maybe JB4 is basing this on a basic check. |
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07-07-2014, 12:45 PM | #27 | |
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found this on the site Dinan Stage 3 Performance Engine Software for BMW 135i 135is 335i 335i xDrive N55 Get 373 horsepower & 408 lb-ft of torque out of your turbocharged BMW engine while keeping everything you love ab View Models $2,499.00 If its $2500 I'll go with it for the security. |
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07-07-2014, 12:49 PM | #28 |
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Every Dinan thread ends up like this...lame
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07-07-2014, 12:50 PM | #29 | ||
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The reality is that I'll never put a cheap, piggyback tune on my car, ever. I don't care how safe and reliable it may be. Just don't trust them. It's a workaround and easy for a tuner. That rubs me the wrong way, sorry. Some people seem to agree with me here. And for you to say that no one has to know that a jb4 was on the car is just absurd. Why wouldn't you tell someone that? I thought you had complete confidence on piggybacks? |
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07-07-2014, 12:58 PM | #31 | |
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I lease my BMWs, so $4000 for something I'll get nothing back from at lease end (and won't be used to calculate residual value) is a lose for me. If you keep your car, MAYBE you'll find someone that finds value in a Dinan tuned car, but more likely you'll limit your audience of buyers unless you then go ahead and pay to have the car reflashed back to stock and pretend it never happened. I just personally find it an expensive either way. Arguments about how if I can afford a BMW, I should be able to afford a few grand for piece of mind. I think it's burning money. If you have money to burn, go for it. Being able to drive a BMW doesn't equate to having money to burn. If I could afford a Veyron, then I could afford paying an excessive amount of money on an overpriced tune. |
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07-07-2014, 01:04 PM | #32 | |
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http://www.dinancars.com/warranty.aspx Dinan covers jack sh** after the 4 year BMW warranty expires. So if you're going to tune after that, guess what? Your engine blows up, you pay for it, not Dinan. How's that for standing behind your product? |
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I think an AFR gauge would make me more paranoid. |
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Wow this thread got ugly and deteriorated quickly.
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07-10-2014, 01:05 PM | #39 | |
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I don't think the point of resale value is moot. If we were talking niche markets for cars that appreciated in value from expensive custom work, it'd be different. A modded car is not going to appreciate in value just because it's FBO. A car with no mods is going to have a much wider audience of potential buyers looking that won't even know what FBO means... much less will they offer you a dime for it. |
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07-10-2014, 08:32 PM | #41 | |
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Easy to say,"just as good". Harder to back it. BMW covering all maint for 4yr/50k was a big selling point for me. Adding a low-priced tune to it that potentially voids my warranttee is not appealing…regardless of how many hp it makes. Pay more for more peace of mind? You bet. If I want cheap/crazy fast, I'll buy a WRX and save a lot of brass. If I want quality/crazy fast, I'll buy an M4 and pay the price. But putting an expensive part on a Subie seems wrong to me. Just like putting a cheap part on a Bimmer does. I got nothing against folks grabbing a $400 tune for their rides. I just don't feel it's better than the company that backs their product with a 4yr warrantee. |
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