M235i depreciation? appreciation?

ocN55 · 12-21-2014, 02:52 AM

Hello everyone,

I am in the market for a 6mt M235i and I was just curious as to what the predictions are as for the value of this car in the future. Will this be another 1M story?

Do you think car will go up in value? Why or why not?

Don't mean to start a debate, just curious as to the type of speculation in the air for this cool car.

Those in places where there are M135i, how well did those car hold their values?

ORIGIN M. · 12-21-2014, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sc3200

Hello everyone,

I am in the market for a 6mt M235i and I was just curious as to what the predictions are as for the value of this car in the future. Will this be another 1M story?

Do you think car will go up in value? Why or why not?

Don't mean to start a debate, just curious as to the type of speculation in the air for this cool car.

The 1M was a limited production low numbered car.

M235i / M240i / 240Tii / M2

... Will all drop in value unlike a fine wine. So, if that's what you looking for, look on.

ocN55 · 12-21-2014, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

The 1M was a limited production low numbered car.

M235i / M240i / 240Tii / M2

... Will all drop in value unlike a fine wine. So, if that's what you looking for, look on.

Not really expecting to make money on a car like this, though it would be nice.

I'm actually on the fence between an m235i and a f30 335i, I figured the m235i would hold its value (not necessarily go up in value) over the f30 335i, which are much more common.

IEDEI · 12-21-2014, 06:30 AM

dream on...

the M235 is depreciating like an ordinary mass production car...because it is an ordinary mass production car. sorry to burst your bubble...

I do think in the long term...like 15-20 years from now cars like the M235 and 135is will retain some collectible value....but after they have depreciated properly...

horsepower_and_hounds · 12-21-2014, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IEDEI

dream on...

the M235 is depreciating like an ordinary mass production car...because it is an ordinary mass production car. sorry to burst your bubble...

This is true but it is one fun mass produced car. I think the M2 might hold it's value better than most think but prolly not like the 1M....that was a very unique time. But i get a feeling when it is released there will be a market increase of 1M availability and with that lower pricing

whoosh · 12-21-2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sc3200

Not really expecting to make money on a car like this, though it would be nice.

I'm actually on the fence between an m235i and a f30 335i, I figured the m235i would hold its value (not necessarily go up in value) over the f30 335i, which are much more common.

Buy the car that you like most and enjoy it while you have it. I can't imagine any difference in depreciation due to market saturation to be enough to warrant selecting a car that you don't like as much as the other.

Cyberdemon · 12-21-2014, 05:17 PM

The 235 will depreciate very similarly to a 335. They are rarer, but also less in demand. The 1M was an ultra rare and limited production car.

mmmmm235i · 12-21-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whoosh

Buy the car that you like most and enjoy it while you have it. I can't imagine any difference in depreciation due to market saturation to be enough to warrant selecting a car that you don't like as much as the other.

Well Said.

Cavpilot2k · 12-22-2014, 08:36 AM

I'm pretty sure we will see a market correction on the 1M when the M2 comes out, but it will still retain excellent value (it will just come down from the ludicrous used>MSRP prices).

ORIGIN M. · 12-22-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

I'm pretty sure we will see a market correction on the 1M when the M2 comes out, but it will still retain excellent value (it will just come down from the ludicrous used>MSRP prices).

The new M2 will not effect the supply and demand of the 1M.

overcoil · 12-22-2014, 12:09 PM

A smart buyer tries to predict depreciation.
If you buy and plan on selling your car a few years down the line the M235 could be one of those great buys that hold unusual high-value.
The 2M may shift sentiment away from the 1M. Couple of people mentioned to me the 2M's constant talk at this years SEMA show.

chaswyck1 · 12-22-2014, 01:16 PM

I think the safest approach is to assume that any new car is going to depreciate in value and every once in a blue moon, like with the 1M, you'll get lucky. But to assume that a non-limited production car is going to hold it's value, much less appreciate in value, is a very risky proposition. The 1M was a very unusual case. Not only was it a very limited production run, but the 1 Series itself was discontinued making the 1M exceedingly rare. While there don't seem to be a lot of 235's around, anyone with $45,000 can order one and there's no indication at all that there won't be a 2016, 2017, etc. 235i so it will never come under the definition of a "rare" car.

rhinothatflies · 12-26-2014, 05:55 PM

...i can't think of any situation where considering a car as a place to park your money is a good idea. generally speaking, as in always, autos are a money losing endeavor. period. this is why i won't buy a car above 40k and i will never buy new. CPO all the wayyyyyyy. situations like the 1M are flukes.

3.0L · 12-26-2014, 06:47 PM

Except perhaps collectible cars:

http://www.details.com/culture-trend...llectible-cars

Xach · 12-26-2014, 07:18 PM

idk but im just happy that i still havent seen any other m235i on the road YET thankfully where im located lol. Weird thing is each dealership only have 2-3 of them in inventory

Mahzari · 12-26-2014, 07:48 PM

Given the production numbers, it will not appreciate. However, like the 135is and 335is, it will depreciate less than the "standard" production models (228i, 328i, 335i, etc.). I think that's why the lease rates aren't as attractive as I would like them to be. BMW can make good money reselling CPO M235i's and I want that to reflect in the residual value.

Also, keep in mind BMW sells much, much fewer 2-series models than 3-series models.

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IEDEI Banned 1130 Rep 4,686 Posts Drives: L'Orange Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Brooklyn, NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [8.40]	dream on... the M235 is depreciating like an ordinary mass production car...because it is an ordinary mass production car. sorry to burst your bubble... I do think in the long term...like 15-20 years from now cars like the M235 and 135is will retain some collectible value....but after they have depreciated properly...
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Cavpilot2k Chief Warrant Officer 1023 Rep 1,638 Posts Drives: like a damn lunatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	I'm pretty sure we will see a market correction on the 1M when the M2 comes out, but it will still retain excellent value (it will just come down from the ludicrous used>MSRP prices).
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overcoil Major General 3074 Rep 5,577 Posts Drives: M235i 6spd Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mid-Atlantic iTrader: (0)	A smart buyer tries to predict depreciation. If you buy and plan on selling your car a few years down the line the M235 could be one of those great buys that hold unusual high-value. The 2M may shift sentiment away from the 1M. Couple of people mentioned to me the 2M's constant talk at this years SEMA show.
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chaswyck1 Lieutenant 76 Rep 506 Posts Drives: 2015 228i Valencia Orange Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Southern CA iTrader: (0)	I think the safest approach is to assume that any new car is going to depreciate in value and every once in a blue moon, like with the 1M, you'll get lucky. But to assume that a non-limited production car is going to hold it's value, much less appreciate in value, is a very risky proposition. The 1M was a very unusual case. Not only was it a very limited production run, but the 1 Series itself was discontinued making the 1M exceedingly rare. While there don't seem to be a lot of 235's around, anyone with $45,000 can order one and there's no indication at all that there won't be a 2016, 2017, etc. 235i so it will never come under the definition of a "rare" car.
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rhinothatflies Private 6 Rep 94 Posts Drives: 228i X-Drive M-Sport w/THP Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Ann Arbor, MI iTrader: (0)	...i can't think of any situation where considering a car as a place to park your money is a good idea. generally speaking, as in always, autos are a money losing endeavor. period. this is why i won't buy a car above 40k and i will never buy new. CPO all the wayyyyyyy. situations like the 1M are flukes.
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Xach Private 15 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M235i Xdrive Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Los angeles Ca iTrader: (0)	idk but im just happy that i still havent seen any other m235i on the road YET thankfully where im located lol. Weird thing is each dealership only have 2-3 of them in inventory
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Mahzari Captain 58 Rep 747 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: May 2010 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Given the production numbers, it will not appreciate. However, like the 135is and 335is, it will depreciate less than the "standard" production models (228i, 328i, 335i, etc.). I think that's why the lease rates aren't as attractive as I would like them to be. BMW can make good money reselling CPO M235i's and I want that to reflect in the residual value. Also, keep in mind BMW sells much, much fewer 2-series models than 3-series models.
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