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View Poll Results: M235i Now or M240i in 1 year?
M235i 45 47.37%
M240i 50 52.63%
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      01-23-2018, 09:33 PM   #23
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I really want a 17 zl1 too much tho or a 14
You'll spend at least ZL1 money on car and modding/repairing your stressed out N55 or B58 at 600 HP. Not to mention the suspension, brakes, tires, blah blah you're not gonna listen.
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I really want a 17 zl1 too much tho or a 14
You'll spend at least ZL1 money on car and modding/repairing your stressed out N55 or B58 at 600 HP. Not to mention the suspension, brakes, tires, blah blah you're not gonna listen.
That's why I'm thinking of getting something else. Want to have a fast daily. Was thinking a 14/15 zl1. Or maybe e92 m3
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I really want a 17 zl1 too much tho or a 14
You'll spend at least ZL1 money on car and modding/repairing your stressed out N55 or B58 at 600 HP. Not to mention the suspension, brakes, tires, blah blah you're not gonna listen.
That's why I'm thinking of getting something else. Want to have a fast daily. Was thinking a 14/15 zl1. Or maybe e92 m3
Supercharged E92 will get you 600 no problem at all. Just need rod bearings replaced and more tire and you're set. Now you're thinking.
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That's why I'm thinking of getting something else. Want to have a fast daily. Was thinking a 14/15 zl1. Or maybe e92 m3
A FBO M235 or M240 would make short work of a E92 M3 in the straights.

A ZL1 is a monster, but if you care about quality and refinement, it's a pretty terrible choice.
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I do not know if the B58 is capable of handling 500 HP. I would get it tuned to 450HP, which I believe is quite achievable given the correct set of mods. I just do not see this car needing anything more than ~425 HP. Given that BMWs own 0-60 time for M240 Xdrive is 4.2 seconds (Conservative estimate).

Dinan's measured Motor HP was rated at ~370 and 415 Ft Lb of torque for the M240i and they have an elite tune out claiming gains on 40 HP and 60 Ft.Lb of torque w/stage 1, which is more than I will ever need...
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I do not know if the B58 is capable of handling 500 HP. I would get it tuned to 450HP, which I believe is quite achievable given the correct set of mods. I just do not see this car needing anything more than ~425 HP. Given that BMWs own 0-60 time for M240 Xdrive is 4.2 seconds (Conservative estimate).

Dinan's measured Motor HP was rated at ~370 and 415 Ft Lb of torque for the M240i and they have an elite tune out claiming gains on 40 HP and 60 Ft.Lb of torque w/stage 1, which is more than I will ever need...
Appreciate the reply. I've made up my mind, I will be selling the car this Saturday and picking up a low mile s2000
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A FBO M235 or M240 would make short work of a E92 M3 in the straights.

A ZL1 is a monster, but if you care about quality and refinement, it's a pretty terrible choice.
When you say quality I assume you don't mean reliability. I'd be willing to bet that the reliability on a stock 650hp ZLI kills the reliability on a 500+hp M235.
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When comparing reliability - one would compare stock to stock - to compare a modded car to a stock car is not a fair comparison.

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When you say quality I assume you don't mean reliability. I'd be willing to bet that the reliability on a stock 650hp ZLI kills the reliability on a 500+hp M235.
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When comparing reliability - one would compare stock to stock - to compare a modded car to a stock car is not a fair comparison.
Why? Why not compare the actual vehicles you're going to own? No where did he say he was going to leave the 235/240 stock. He said he wants to get between 500-600 hp.
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Wants an easily tunable car that gets 500-600 HP with bolt ons - and buys an S2000

Are you planning on LS swapping it? Lmao!

Bigboost and ps2 m240is are making 550+ and 600+ on glory runs.
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Wants an easily tunable car that gets 500-600 HP with bolt ons - and buys an S2000

Are you planning on LS swapping it? Lmao!

Bigboost and ps2 m240is are making 550+ and 600+ on glory runs.
Turbo s2k can go 600whp and still be reliable from what I've found. Lighter and more reliable than a BMW. Want to start tracking, s2000 seems like the best choice. Plus I've never heard anyone regretting buying one
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Turbo s2k can go 600whp and still be reliable from what I've found. Lighter and more reliable than a BMW. Want to start tracking, s2000 seems like the best choice. Plus I've never heard anyone regretting buying one
Seriously, who needs a 600 horsepower S2000 on the street. A 400 horsepower S2000 would be crazy fun but there is a point where it just gets stupid. 600 hp in an S2000 in my mind is the equivalent of someone that thinks it's cool to "roll coal".
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Turbo s2k can go 600whp and still be reliable from what I've found. Lighter and more reliable than a BMW. Want to start tracking, s2000 seems like the best choice. Plus I've never heard anyone regretting buying one
Seriously, who needs a 600 horsepower S2000 on the street. A 400 horsepower S2000 would be crazy fun but there is a point where it just gets stupid. 600 hp in an S2000 in my mind is the equivalent of someone that thinks it's cool to "roll coal".
Never said that's what I would do. Just stating a fact. If I enjoy tracking a lot and feel the need for more power I would supercharge it to 400. 600 is too much
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So long, enjoy the S2K, they're fun (but not fast).
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So long, enjoy the S2K, they're fun (but not fast).
I always heard they were quite peppy in the day 0-60 in 4.9 is pretty quick.
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Turbo s2k can go 600whp and still be reliable from what I've found. Lighter and more reliable than a BMW. Want to start tracking, s2000 seems like the best choice. Plus I've never heard anyone regretting buying one
I promise you, it will not be more reliable Also, having that much power means a huge turbo which equals massive lag. The car will be brutal in the straight line but all out disaster on a road course. I think you've got some learning to do. A low mile, unmolested S2000 will cost you a pretty penny too. I helped my buddy find one last year. You'll pay for it, that's for sure.
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I always heard they were quite peppy in the day 0-60 in 4.9 is pretty quick.
It required a very brutal red line launch which may or may not blow up the differential from excessive wheel hop.
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Has OP even ever been to the track or owned a car with >400 HP?
What a goofball.
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Has OP even ever been to the track or owned a car with >400 HP?
What a goofball.
Not saying I'm going to 2jz swap it 1k+ hp first day. Will obviously be a learning process. Getting used to the car and learning it while it's stock, then modding it one mod at a time. Come on guys, use some common sense. Not that hard
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Why would you ruin an S2k with that? The entire appeal of that car is its composed nature in twisty roads etc. By making it a power monster you pretty much destroy any reason to have started out with an S2k. I cant imagine trying to push 600hp out of my Z3 for instance, just a terrible idea all over. It would be squirmy, and erratic.
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Why would you ruin an S2k with that? The entire appeal of that car is its composed nature in twisty roads etc. By making it a power monster you pretty much destroy any reason to have started out with an S2k. I cant imagine trying to push 600hp out of my Z3 for instance, just a terrible idea all over. It would be squirmy, and erratic.
Said if I get tired of it being slow and dislike tracking it I would do that. I don't mind the stock power because it handles extremely well, if I ever wanted more power I would likely supercharge it instead. Keep similar power band
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Said if I get tired of it being slow and dislike tracking it I would do that. I don't mind the stock power because it handles extremely well, if I ever wanted more power I would likely supercharge it instead. Keep similar power band
I would honestly advise against it, I know the Z3 and S2k are not the same car, but similar concept behind them. Anything over 450hp and they start to be quite unwieldy.

If you plan on going big power, I would not do it to something that is built around being a canyon carver (typically 2 seater roadies).
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