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      05-16-2013, 01:47 PM   #199
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Meh. Not ready to trade in my 1SMC for this blob. The proportions look a little whacky (even though the 1SMC admittedly suffers from the pregnant cat syndrome).
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      05-16-2013, 01:48 PM   #200
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Meh. Not ready to trade in my 1SMC for this blob. The proportions look a little whacky (even though the 1SMC admittedly suffers from the pregnant cat syndrome).
Can't say I blame you. The 1M is the next e30 M3 IMO so I would hold on to that sucker as long as you can!
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      05-16-2013, 01:55 PM   #201
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Design is fantastic, BUT BMW, please stop putting ///M badges on non-M cars. It's getting tacky!
The BMW M235i and BMW M135i are M Performance cars - The BMW M. sub-Brand.

If we add a few inches onto the wheelbase , elongate and stretch the roof , making it more rounder we get a first impression of the forthcoming baby Gran Coupe model.
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      05-16-2013, 02:02 PM   #202
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Can't wait for the release
For sure it has the same great dynamics as the M135i, but looks better.
Expect 6MT and 8 sport AT with LC
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      05-16-2013, 02:13 PM   #203
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I think it was mentioned that there would only be a M235 the first year.


What does it^ weigh..?
Both M235i and 228i will be available first year. Both begin production this November.
What will happen after the first year?
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      05-16-2013, 02:15 PM   #204
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I think it was mentioned that there would only be a M235 the first year.


What does it^ weigh..?
Both M235i and 228i will be available first year. Both begin production this November.
What will happen after the first year?
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      05-16-2013, 02:22 PM   #205
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What a surprise, it looks exactly the same as the upcoming 4 series but at a smaller scale. The same way that the 3 series is just a smaller version of the 5 series, the 3GT is just a bloated version of the F30, etc...

The BMW design department continues to disappoint me. I'm not saying it's ugly, but I hate the fact the every new BMW looks exactly the same as every other model in the lineup. One thing is to have a family connection, and a completely different one is having one basic design stretched, bloated or shrunk into different shapes.

Take a look at any other previous generation of BMWs. While each model would be unmistakably recognized as a BMW, none of them would look like a smaller or bigger version of each other.
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      05-16-2013, 02:26 PM   #206
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Looking quite nice, i hope we see this and the M2 in the US in short order
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      05-16-2013, 03:27 PM   #207
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Wow I can't believe it's getting so many good opinions, to me I think it's kinda ugly, but then again i may be biased to the 135
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      05-16-2013, 03:50 PM   #208
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I really excited to see the car in the flesh finally- looks really great and I can't wait to see the final press shots.

However, I still will not buy unless the DCT is offered. Just make it an option BMW.
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      05-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #209
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Beautiful exterior... However, the interior looks very similar to current 3-series, which is unfortunate (I personally dislike this new iDrive display design which look like a Garmin unit attached to dashboard with a Velcro strip). Still, gotta wait for final product and look at it in person...
Also, hopefully this new steering wheel is not the only one that is offered - it is fairly "comfortable" in use but looks kinda "weird" and too "old-fashioned", regardless of the model... I prefer steering wheels with larger airbag area.

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      05-16-2013, 04:45 PM   #210
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I prefer steering wheels with larger airbag area.
Well there's a first. Do you also like really think A-Pillars and tape players?
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      05-16-2013, 05:14 PM   #211
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Beautiful exterior... However, the interior looks very similar to current 3-series, which is unfortunate (I personally dislike this new iDrive display design which look like a Garmin unit attached to dashboard with a Velcro strip).
Agree. That is crap. Hopefully they don't go that route.
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      05-16-2013, 05:25 PM   #212
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How would it roast an 1M? I mean, numbers might be close, but I think the 1M would still have an edge over the M235i. Now the M2 might be a different story....
I said roast.. bad choice of words. Strongly compete should maybe be what should be said, but the price difference and how it will displace the 1M is why I chose the word.

All the coupes are slightly quicker than their sedan variants, right? Given the M135i and the fact it is within 1 second of the 1M at Hockenheim (a good test for compact, turbo vehicles), I suspect this car, weighing less and having a bit of a power bump (likely) will either beat or come close to the 1M all while costing less and looking better.
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      05-16-2013, 05:47 PM   #213
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OMG grosssssssssssssssssssssss!

The only nice part are the headlights..
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      05-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #214
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I like it. Much better than the current 1 coupe.
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      05-16-2013, 07:16 PM   #215
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I am surprised the headlights don't run into the kidney.. I thought all BMW's were moving to that look.
^^^First thing I told myself right after I saw the front.^^^

It really looks like a face-lifted e92 m3, which is a good thing!
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      05-16-2013, 07:42 PM   #216
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Well, since it is not coming in 6mt, I will not be buying it. BMW is becoming a luxury brand focused on "efficient dynamics"....whatever happened to the ultimate driving machine?
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      05-16-2013, 07:49 PM   #217
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Did you drive them side by side?

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Mercedes must be pretty pissed right now. This completely destroys the CLA as far as I'm concerned.
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      05-16-2013, 07:49 PM   #218
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Did you look at the pictures? 6mt in the middle.. Dont think Us will only get auto x-drive models.. wouldnt make sense. and would lose my business. dct or 6mt only on my m235 please.

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      05-16-2013, 08:47 PM   #219
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How would it roast an 1M? I mean, numbers might be close, but I think the 1M would still have an edge over the M235i. Now the M2 might be a different story....
I said roast.. bad choice of words. Strongly compete should maybe be what should be said, but the price difference and how it will displace the 1M is why I chose the word.

All the coupes are slightly quicker than their sedan variants, right? Given the M135i and the fact it is within 1 second of the 1M at Hockenheim (a good test for compact, turbo vehicles), I suspect this car, weighing less and having a bit of a power bump (likely) will either beat or come close to the 1M all while costing less and looking better.
I can agree with that.

I hope this turns out to be the case. If it can come close to 1M stats, I'll be a happy camper.
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      05-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #220
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I don't see where anyone mentioned the cool-looking bulge in the hood. Pretty kick-ass!
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