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      12-05-2015, 03:43 PM   #23
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I asked them a couple times but never got a response about fueling. Are you running meth or any other supplemental fueling to run full boost on that turbo?

The jb guys need meth to run 24 25 pds of boost
To run max boost you will definitely need some type of additional fueling. Personally I'd rather avoid meth and plan on eventually adding the fuel-it tbi kit and lpfp. Right now I'm on stock fuel system using 93 pump and have had no issues. Looks like the current tune is peaking at 21psi but tapers off as rpm increases. Will experiment with adding a bit of e85 and see what happens, on the stock turbo I could add as much as 5 gallons per tank with no issues.

I had a chance to test the car last night and I have to revise my earlier comment of the car not being much faster. Even on the current tune the car feels like an absolute beast, at WOT it's frighteningly fast. It's definitely a lot faster, the power delivery is so incredibly smooth it's ridiculous, the blurb between shifts is louder and it sounds absolutely intoxicating at WOT.

Since this is my first upgraded turbo, I didn't know what to expect and was really worried about the increased spool time affecting my 0-60 times, but I am happy to report that I easily matched my record of 3.80s on the first run, with half a tank of gas.

Honestly I'd recommend this upgrade along with the dv+ even for people who don't plan on running max boost, I feel it's really improved the overall feel of the car, not sure why that is but I assume it's because the turbo just runs more efficiently vs a maxed out stock turbo.
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To run max boost you will definitely need some type of additional fueling. Personally I'd rather avoid meth and plan on eventually adding the fuel-it tbi kit and lpfp. Right now I'm on stock fuel system using 93 pump and have had no issues. Looks like the current tune is peaking at 21psi but tapers off as rpm increases. Will experiment with adding a bit of e85 and see what happens, on the stock turbo I could add as much as 5 gallons per tank with no issues.

I had a chance to test the car last night and I have to revise my earlier comment of the car not being much faster. Even on the current tune the car feels like an absolute beast, at WOT it's frighteningly fast. It's definitely a lot faster, the power delivery is so incredibly smooth it's ridiculous, the blurb between shifts is louder and it sounds absolutely intoxicating at WOT.

Since this is my first upgraded turbo, I didn't know what to expect and was really worried about the increased spool time affecting my 0-60 times, but I am happy to report that I easily matched my record of 3.80s on the first run, with half a tank of gas.

Honestly I'd recommend this upgrade along with the dv+ even for people who don't plan on running max boost, I feel it's really improved the overall feel of the car, not sure why that is but I assume it's because the turbo just runs more efficiently vs a maxed out stock turbo.
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So it feels like the car is getting faster the more I drive it, as though the ecu is adapting to the bigger turbo. I don't know enough about engine management software to know whether that's even possible, I'm just reporting my subjective impressions.

I did manage to set a new personal record for 0-60 times: 3.67s and acceleration of 1.35Gs
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So it feels like the car is getting faster the more I drive it, as though the ecu is adapting to the bigger turbo. I don't know enough about engine management software to know whether that's even possible, I'm just reporting my subjective impressions.

I did manage to set a new personal record for 0-60 times: 3.67s and acceleration of 1.35Gs
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Cool man. My problem with the fuel it tb kit is it uses a boost switch. To me that's no different than or more reliable than a meth kit.....

Don't run ethanol you will need more fuel volume. If you get the fuel it kit then you can try some mixtures
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Cool man. My problem with the fuel it tb kit is it uses a boost switch. To me that's no different than or more reliable than a meth kit.....

Don't run ethanol you will need more fuel volume. If you get the fuel it kit then you can try some mixtures
I don't see the problem with the Fuel-IT TBI kit. The hobb's switch is pretty reliable. You set the load of the spring. You get pressure in the CP and it makes contact. Completing contact opens the solenoid and the TBI nozzles start spraying. It sprays in tank fuel. So it works perfect on an E30-E40 mix in my car. I have been running it since summer. No issues at all.
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I don't see the problem with the Fuel-IT TBI kit. The hobb's switch is pretty reliable. You set the load of the spring. You get pressure in the CP and it makes contact. Completing contact opens the solenoid and the TBI nozzles start spraying. It sprays in tank fuel. So it works perfect on an E30-E40 mix in my car. I have been running it since summer. No issues at all.
No problem I just think it's no more or less reliable than boost switch meth kit, that was my point. I didn't say it wasn't quality parts or anything I'm sure it works great
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I haven't ruled out buying the kit cause I want to run ethanol but just wish it was controlled a bit more advanced than a on off boost switch.
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I don't see the problem with the Fuel-IT TBI kit. The hobb's switch is pretty reliable. You set the load of the spring. You get pressure in the CP and it makes contact. Completing contact opens the solenoid and the TBI nozzles start spraying. It sprays in tank fuel. So it works perfect on an E30-E40 mix in my car. I have been running it since summer. No issues at all.
No problem I just think it's no more or less reliable than boost switch meth kit, that was my point. I didn't say it wasn't quality parts or anything I'm sure it works great
How much more simple can you have it than a analogue boost trigger signal? And the difference with meth is that you spray the same octane as without it because it runs from the in-tank fuel. I think there are fewer points of failure. Then again i have been running both tbi and meth for some time.

Its hard to let the meth go... Like its an addiction
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How much more simple can you have it than a analogue boost trigger signal? And the difference with meth is that you spray the same octane as without it because it runs from the in-tank fuel. I think there are fewer points of failure. Then again i have been running both tbi and meth for some time.

Its hard to let the meth go... Like its an addiction
The problem with using boost is it's not a good indicator of engine load. You can be in 5th or 6th gear at low rpm and spool your turbo fully up at like 3 to 4k rpm. That's what I mean... Same thing with the meth kits that why I bought an Aquamist kit because at least I can trigger on rail pressure and injector duty cycle. Even if we could integrate an rpm input into the controller I would love that.

BTW, I am def addicted to meth haha

OP, sorry for the thread jack haha
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when you said you dropped your car at ACM was that short for Autocouture? ive been looking for a shop in NJ
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when you said you dropped your car at ACM was that short for Autocouture? ive been looking for a shop in NJ
Yes, great shop, highly recommended.

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awesome im going to head over some time this week once i get my car. im going to have them do my flash ive been in contact with lalit. got his info through my dealership. seems like an awesome guy.

who actually does the tuning for the shop though?
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awesome im going to head over some time this week once i get my car. im going to have them do my flash ive been in contact with lalit. got his info through my dealership. seems like an awesome guy.

who actually does the tuning for the shop though?
Honestly if you're looking for flash tuning you're probably better off checking out Enzo Performance in Long Island.
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question about flashing the ecu. if i needed to bring the car in for service would i get the oem tune back on. would i have to take my car back to enzo first. what work do you have ACM do for you also? My boss is friends with one of the guys there thats the only reason i considered them for tuning.
a for a quick newb forum question. is FBO full bolt on? lol

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question about flashing the ecu. if i needed to bring the car in for service would i get the oem tune back on. would i have to take my car back to enzo first. what work do you have ACM do for you also? My boss is friends with one of the guys there thats the only reason i considered them for tuning.
a for a quick newb forum question. is FBO full bolt on? lol


To flash back to stock you'd have to send in to enzo again im pretty sure.

Yes FBO is full bolt on (downpipe, intake, front mount intercooler fmic, charge pipe) and sometimes people consider exhaust part of it too but catbacks show minimal gains on our cars.
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question about flashing the ecu. if i needed to bring the car in for service would i get the oem tune back on. would i have to take my car back to enzo first. what work do you have ACM do for you also? My boss is friends with one of the guys there thats the only reason i considered them for tuning.
a for a quick newb forum question. is FBO full bolt on? lol
I don't know where you live, but Enzo can flash your car back to stock via obd so if you swing by the shop it should only take a second.

Only work I had done at ACM was the turbo install, all other bolt ons were installed by Frank at Enzo's, really great guy. I would have done the turbo with them as well but they were a bit backed up and I'm too impatient to have the turbo sitting around in a box
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question about flashing the ecu. if i needed to bring the car in for service would i get the oem tune back on. would i have to take my car back to enzo first. what work do you have ACM do for you also? My boss is friends with one of the guys there thats the only reason i considered them for tuning.
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Just take it into service as normal. Flash tune is not detectable unless the dealer knows EXACTLY where to look within ECU...could be detectable if ECU is sent back to BMW tho.

Piggybacks are detectable as they have to direct connect to ECU, then be hidden.

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question about flashing the ecu. if i needed to bring the car in for service would i get the oem tune back on. would i have to take my car back to enzo first. what work do you have ACM do for you also? My boss is friends with one of the guys there thats the only reason i considered them for tuning.
a for a quick newb forum question. is FBO full bolt on? lol
Just take it into service as normal. Flash tune is not detectable unless the dealer knows EXACTLY where to look within ECU...could be detectable if ECU is sent back to BMW tho.

Piggybacks are detectable as they have to direct connect to ECU, then be hidden.

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I agree, if just routine service I wouldn't worry about it, I recently took my car in for warranty oil change and had no issues. If you're going in for warranty work I would flash back to stock just in case.
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great results! gives me an idea of where I'm at . loving the Enzo tune!

good luck on stage 2!
Get ready, Luminous SuperBran mge92 shivaswrath R32DBP Crashnbrn5 and I we'll be going for Dynojet soon .. to show the community all EnzoTuned Flash cars Numbers, with diff mods, and engines.
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Great numbers and thanks for providing the community with this info!

412/462 Dynojet on stock turbo with catted Dp on 93 EnzoTuned
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question about flashing the ecu. if i needed to bring the car in for service would i get the oem tune back on. would i have to take my car back to enzo first. what work do you have ACM do for you also? My boss is friends with one of the guys there thats the only reason i considered them for tuning.
a for a quick newb forum question. is FBO full bolt on? lol


To flash back to stock you'd have to send in to enzo again im pretty sure.

Yes FBO is full bolt on (downpipe, intake, front mount intercooler fmic, charge pipe) and sometimes people consider exhaust part of it too but catbacks show minimal gains on our cars.
As do intakes
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