[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

I've been seeing FBO a lot, what does it mean exactly?

Fully bolt ons

In the BMW world it means tune, downpipes, intercooler, charge pipe and intake

[pimp4cheddar]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

I've been seeing FBO a lot, what does it mean exactly?

Full Bolt On...

Meaning all plug and play options have been added:
Tune
Downpipe
Intake
Exhaust
Charge pipe
Sometimes includes intercooler...

[ohohoh123456]

Thank you both. Just learned something today

[Pparana]

Get a wifi or Bluetooth obd reader, you can see your iat temps with most of them, if your spiking above 100f then you prob could benefit from a larger intercooler. It's really all going to depend on where and how hard and long you drive the car.

[ohohoh123456]

Originally Posted by Pparana

Get a wifi or Bluetooth obd reader, you can see your iat temps with most of them, if your spiking above 100f then you prob could benefit from a larger intercooler. It's really all going to depend on where and how hard and long you drive the car.

you talking about 100c right? a sunny day in socal goes over 100f easily...

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

I've been seeing FBO a lot, what does it mean exactly?

Full Bolt On. It can mean different things depending on the car. Generally it's just having all "bolt on" mods available for a given platform. Such as an intake, exhaust, intercooler, etc

Edit; looks like I was a bit late to answer you lol

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

you talking about 100c right? a sunny day in socal goes over 100f easily...

Nope, 100f

[ohohoh123456]

Originally Posted by ocN55

Nope, 100f

really...200-220f was the normal range for my old z

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

really...200-220f was the normal range for my old z

Goes to show how much cooling has improved on BMWs especially on a turbo car

[ohohoh123456]

Originally Posted by ocN55

Goes to show how much cooling has improved on BMWs especially on a turbo car

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

really...200-220f was the normal range for my old z

I think you are referring to a coolant temperature range whereas this thread is about intake air temp IAT and go by of <100degF means stock IC is OK.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

really...200-220f was the normal range for my old z

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

I think you are referring to a coolant temperature range whereas this thread is about intake air temp IAT and go by of <100degF means stock IC is OK.

Yea im pretty sure IAT was not 200-220f in the Z

[ohohoh123456]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Yea im pretty sure IAT was not 200-220f in the Z

gotcha. yes i have a bad habit of reading only portions of a sentence lol. I thought it's the oil temp

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456

gotcha. yes i have a bad habit of reading only portions of a sentence lol. I thought it's the oil temp

LOL i have that same bad habit

[Cloud IX]

To OP, do you ever plan on running on the track? Then yes, it's recommended. If you search the ER Intercooler threads, you can see they did actual testing and it makes a huge difference performance wise. I'm talking about running your car hard at the track and not to your local McDonalds or a short run on a dyno.

[ohohoh123456]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

To OP, do you ever plan on running on the track? Then yes, it's recommended. If you search the ER Intercooler threads, you can see they did actual testing and it makes a huge difference performance wise. I'm talking about running your car hard at the track and not to your local McDonalds or a short run on a dyno.

I'm not planning to track the car. So that's a no need for me I guess

[mike@x-ph.com]

Wagner EVO I performance vs stock
This is the smallest intercooler they offer, the bigger ones will provide better cooling as well but might be an overkill if you do not track your car often

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Back to back pulls on the highway or track events is where intercoolers really shine.

As you heat soak, that's when you start losing power, efficiency and consistency.

Intercoolers are more efficient and gain back power that was lost from heat soak.

If you do 3 runs back to back on a stock intercooler, each run will be that much slower compared to the next.

[Gotulukn]

I have a m235i, with NY's RK-tune flash tune, Downpipe, and aluminum CP. Supposedly 380~whp/440wtq. I've been trying to do research regarding how much power is loss through heatsoak,on my stock intercooler? 5%,10%? After a few repeated WOT pulls? Trying to justify purchasing a 7" FMIC.

I did try to search on here as well as google, only find people saying "loss power" nothing specific. Thank you! "I know this is a revive"

[Jnat]

This is interesting, on multiple different forums, car manufacturers it seems to be fairly obvious that intercoolers don't make horsepower, they prevent you from loosing it after heat soak. When does heat soak occur, that's arbitrary based on how the car is being used. Ever been to the track, I'm sure most of you have atsome point and seen all different types of drivers/tuners putting ice on their intakes, spraying their intercoolers (Mitsubishi and Subaru used sprayers on their intercoolers from the factory). You can run a stock intercooler, on a hot day it won't perform as well as an upgrade, on a cold day, probably won't notice a difference.