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12-14-2017, 10:14 AM | #24 |
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If you think you're getting unusual wear then check your alignment with special attention to your toe settings.
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^This. You need to get the camber and toe as close to stock spec as you can. If you're running a more aggressive setup, you'll burn through tires at a much quicker rate. For example, late model 911 and midengine Porsches run pretty aggressive rear suspension settings. It lends itself well to handling, but it's not uncommon for those cars to wear out the rear tires in 10K-15K whereas the fronts last twice as long.
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12-14-2017, 01:11 PM | #27 | |
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Camber is fixed on the front so you can't adjust it unless you put camber plates or change the control arms |
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12-14-2017, 03:55 PM | #30 |
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But what about cars with adjustable ride height suspensions like many SUV's have sport cars that drop for increased highway speeds - doubt their camber's change
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Many SUVs will have positive camber (with low cornering grip) at higher ride heights. For fixed camber you need solid axles (normally zero camber) or semi-independent de-Dion rear suspension. Trailing arm suspensions will have less camber change, but are compromised in other ways. Active suspensions with zero or artificial opposite roll can have little camber change, but the feel of the car seems to be weird and non-intuitive, so I don’t know of any sporting car that will counteract natural roll completely. |
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12-16-2017, 09:45 PM | #33 |
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No, they're going on my 18x9.5 Apex EC-7's. I can't get over how much wider they are than the 245's. Way more than 10mm.
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12-23-2017, 02:24 PM | #35 |
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You should check details before opting for a tire w/better warranty, since I think most of them won't warranty if you can't rotate (like our staggered setups) or they cut it in half. As noted above, toe setting is also crucial, can get knocked out of spec by potholes.
And I'm seriously considering Conti's - several reviews note slight improvement in wet handling/braking, which is more crucial to me than a little bit more grip in the dry. The last gen Conti DW's I had wore very well, but they weren't on a Mazda 6 so not working nearly as hard. |
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Also the 5 ft difference in stopping distance. That's about right amount of performance difference between UHP all season and Max performance summer. Extreme performance summer is about same amount better than Max performance summer. (1 sec faster in 60 sec course) |
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12-31-2017, 05:40 AM | #38 |
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I have A/S 3+ and they are very good in the summer and none of the issues that summer compounds give u in the winter. They are quiet, long lasting / durable. And I don't recall the A/S really feeling any different in the steering. I do however think in the summer in the wet the Michelin summer compound has grip in corners at speed the A/S doesn't have - and I think the summer compound do have an overall feel that makes the car more awesome during the warm months.
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my experience was that brand new Michelin summer compound with maximum tread depth, if the driver were smooth and didn't have to deal with steep ascents or descents - you could get somewhere in the snow. Start to add wear/reduced tread depth and it got real sketchy real fast on ice and snow.
The Michelin A/S-3 for one thing the tread wear is not as rapid as the Summer style so that gives you more months of capable driving. Obviously the ground height of the car is a limiting factor. My other car is an AWD Honda HR-V and it's just way faster and way easier too drive on ice and snow. |
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Best to run snow tyres if you get a decent amount of it though. A full set with wheels and tyres is not that expensive from TireRack and it's more than satisfying going past someone struggling with all seasons in a stereotypical, not sensible for the snow car like the F22.
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(done that with my 07 GTI with Potenze re050, I drove from Urbana to Chicago in snow storm. Only reason I made it in one piece was that I was super lucky.) It does not matter of being careful or moving slow. It just does not move in the direction where you want to go at any speed. With all season, you can drive safely at 20 mph or so. At least it moves to the direction where you pointing at that speed. |
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