[IS3andME]

All these posters are lying. They wish something worse had happened, because that means one less potential M2 customer to compete with...


J/K...
So...about that S65 engine, coffee table?

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by cole3488

I've drove the 1m and liked it. I agree on it keeping its value but I think when the m2 comes out it will drive the price down for a little bit. To the other point about a lot of e92s being available that's true, but its hard to find a clean one with low miles that hasn't been tarred apart.

FYI: they said 1M prices would fall when the F8X M3 and M4 came out....and they didn't fall. My guess is the same will hold true for when the M2 comes out.

That being said I don't think the 1M is a car you should convince yourself to buy----either you want it badly or you don't.

I personally think you should get another E92 M3 as it seems like that's what you are preferring at this point.

[cole3488]

I honesty am going to try to wait like I said I'm first on the list for the m2. if its a game changer I'll get it. If it turn out to be a dud I'll get something else. The reason why I made this post is because they're great. I've drove them all. 1m m4 and obviously my car. I think 1m will be the best long term investment. due to only 740. but I think longer term the e92 m3 will be popular due to being the last n/a engine and the last m3 coupe.

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by cole3488

just like the title says I put my m3 in a ditch. should I wait for the new m2? or buy another e92 m3. let me know thanks.

If you can wait for the release of M2, why not wait and assess your options then? F8X M3/M4 should still be available then. In the meantime, purchase something totally different but fun to drive?

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

FYI: they said 1M prices would fall when the F8X M3 and M4 came out....and they didn't fall. My guess is the same will hold true for when the M2 comes out.

No, 1M prices did fall from the astronomical prices some sellers were asking. Prices from reasonable sellers did hold around the original MSRP which I think was expected. My guess is that 1M prices will drop a little bit when the M2 finally comes out, but not significantly.

My reasoning is that someone looking for a smaller M car will then have the choice of a used 1M or a new M2 (some buyers may not have even considered the F8x due to price and/or size). Someone selling a used 1M at that time will then have a 4-5 year old car with miles on it competing with a new small M car with warranty. Unless someone really has their heart set on a 1M, it could be hard to justify paying the same amount of money or more for a 1M over an M2.

On the other hand, if reviews of the M2 end up being less than favorable, we could see the opposite effect of 1M prices rising.

[cole3488]

jasoncsu- that's exactly how I feel

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

No, 1M prices did fall from the astronomical prices some sellers were asking. Prices from reasonable sellers did hold around the original MSRP which I think was expected. My guess is that 1M prices will drop a little bit when the M2 finally comes out, but not significantly.

My reasoning is that someone looking for a smaller M car will then have the choice of a used 1M or a new M2 (some buyers may not have even considered the F8x due to price and/or size). Someone selling a used 1M at that time will then have a 4-5 year old car with miles on it competing with a new small M car with warranty. Unless someone really has their heart set on a 1M, it could be hard to justify paying the same amount of money or more for a 1M over an M2.

On the other hand, if reviews of the M2 end up being less than favorable, we could see the opposite effect of 1M prices rising.

the fact is that it is a 4+ year old car and almost all used examples are still selling for OVER MSRP unless they are crashed....even the crashed cars still sell for over MSRP. That is totally unique for almost any modern used car, barring the GT3 RS 4.0 and the Ford GT.

Either way I think the M2 will be a fantastic car....really a great option for those who couldn't convince themselves to get a 1M.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

the fact is that it is a 4+ year old car and almost all used examples are still selling for OVER MSRP unless they are crashed....even the crashed cars still sell for over MSRP. That is totally unique for almost any modern used car, barring the GT3 RS 4.0 and the Ford GT.

Either way I think the M2 will be a fantastic car....really a great option for those who couldn't convince themselves to get a 1M.

wonder how it will be a fantastic car if it's going to be based on the 2 series that you hate so much for it's weight and handling etc etc....

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

wonder how it will be a fantastic car if it's going to be based on the 2 series that you hate so much for it's weight and handling etc etc....

well the 2-series is not an M car....In any way. not comparable.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

well the 2-series is not an M car....In any way.

well it's probably similar difference there was between the 135is and the 1M...
so don't get how in your opinion the 2-series is terrible car but the M2 will be a great car...

So it's not that it will be a completely different car... maybe you thinking of getting one and that's probably why you starting to like it....

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

well it's probably similar difference there was between the 135is and the 1M...
so don't get how in your opinion the 2-series is terrible car but the M2 will be a great car...

So it's not that it will be a completely different car... maybe you thinking of getting one and that's probably why you starting to like it....

I'm not getting one...totally satisfied with the 1M. May add the F80 M3 to our garage in the next 2 years or so....but the 1M stays forever!

I enjoy following the development of the M2....it's interesting to see how they follow up the 1M.

[cole3488]

iedei- are you talking about the m235i not being a m car? because that's obvious. If your talking about the m2 not being a m car I don't follow that. the 1m was a parts car from the e92 m3. I really do like the 1m but I think the m2 will come out and be a better car for roughly the same price. long term the 1m will be worth more due to the limited amount.

[DCYT]

1M prices did fall.
A few that I followed changed hands at low-mid $40s from dealer CPO'ed.
This is in Toronto.

[Die ///M Rakete]

Prices on the 1M will adjust to the mid-thirties once the M2 comes in to fill that niche next year. In the much longer term the 1M prices will go up beyond where they are now, but we're talking a couple of decades.

You can quote me on that later

[cole3488]

Originally Posted by Die ///M Rakete

Prices on the 1M will adjust to the mid-thirties once the M2 comes in to fill that niche next year. In the much longer term the 1M prices will go up beyond where they are now, but we're talking a couple of decades.

You can quote me on that later

where are you based? right now in the US its around 55k obviously up or down based on miles. I think that would be awesome if it dropped the 1m that far then I would pick one up for a long term investment. Has anyone heard potential release dates? it will he nice to know what the m2 will be and then everything will be crystal clear.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by cole3488

iedei- are you talking about the m235i not being a m car? because that's obvious. If your talking about the m2 not being a m car I don't follow that. the 1m was a parts car from the e92 m3. I really do like the 1m but I think the m2 will come out and be a better car for roughly the same price. long term the 1m will be worth more due to the limited amount.

no..talking about the standard 2-series. The M2 will very much be an M car!

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Die ///M Rakete

Prices on the 1M will adjust to the mid-thirties once the M2 comes in to fill that niche next year. In the much longer term the 1M prices will go up beyond where they are now, but we're talking a couple of decades.

You can quote me on that later

0% chance of mid 30s. Hell I will buy 2 more if they go to that low.....but I can't see it ever happening.

1Ms are still selling in the $52-60k range all the time. I know 2 people who recently spent upper $50K range money to buy one. The lesser priced ones have crash histories and there are lots of 1Ms that have been crashed...so be careful!

[cole3488]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

0% chance of mid 30s. Hell I will buy 2 more if they go to that low.....but I can't see it ever happening.

1Ms are still selling in the $52-60k range all the time. I know 2 people who recently spent upper $50K range money to buy one. The lesser priced ones have crash histories and there are lots of 1Ms that have been crashed...so be careful!

is your 1m stock or modded? another issue other then wrecked ones are finding stock 1ms that people didn't tare apart.

another question for everything how much do you think the 15m4 will go for used when the 16m3/m4 comes out?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by frenzy757

I was in a similar boat cept I didn't crash anything.

I was choosing between E92 M3, E46 M3, 1M, and waiting for the M2.

I went with the 1M. I drove all (cept only the M235i since the M2 wasn't out) a lot...

V8 is amazing for sure, but the 1M felt better to me (E92 kind of felt a little too large).

I think the M2 will be faster than the 1M, but it looks like it won't be that light and the 1M is just special to me....plus you can mod the 1m (If you want) and get some nice power gains - or keep it stock and it should holds its value.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by cole3488

is your 1m stock or modded? another issue other then wrecked ones are finding stock 1ms that people didn't tare apart.

another question for everything how much do you think the 15m4 will go for used when the 16m3/m4 comes out?

totally stock....although I'm planning on keeping it I definitely so I am not worried about 2nd hand values; but you are totally right about 'modded' cars as I certainly would not buy a modded car in general.

Not sure about M4 prices....but since they are being mass produced I would guess they will depreciate as other M cars do? Not as much as a standard BMW model but at least some?

[heart_doctor]

Awful, you ok????