[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by Chuck W.

OK.... I don't know so I'll ask. IF you bought an M4 when they were first released and paid ED MSRP could you do any better now? I don't think so. Which would mean the OP is doing this right thing instead of waiting for a better price after they have been out for several months.

Yes you definitely could. I bought my f80 3 months after release and paid invoice + 1000, a healthy 3100 dollar discount on a 70k msrp car

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Yes you definitely could. I bought my f80 3 months after release and paid invoice + 1000, a healthy 3100 dollar discount on a 70k msrp car

where did you buy it ?

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

where did you buy it ?

Long beach bmw, sa was Khoi diep. Awesome guy.

Deals like this are easy to find imo

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Long beach bmw, sa was Khoi diep. Awesome guy.

Deals like this are easy to find imo

nice... that's unusual... in some markets they will hardly go below msrp at launch

but if they need to move cars, then maybe they are willing to take less....

[Chuck W.]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Yes you definitely could. I bought my f80 3 months after release and paid invoice + 1000, a healthy 3100 dollar discount on a 70k msrp car

Cool, thanks. I'll wait three months and shop around. There are 30 something BMW dealers in the Los Angeles area. Makes it a lot easier to shop for a deal.

[Twix]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

This is the position I took when getting my 1M. I was willing to pay ED MSRP only, and it was a limited edition model.

You may have to call several dealers, but don't let that deter you. Euro Delivery is an amazing experience. BMW AG wants you to experience the purchase this way, you just have to find a dealer that is familiar with the process. Keep in mind that you can also spec for Performance center delivery, so the dealership where you purchase the vehicle can be anywhere in the country.

I know my dealer sends a lot of people over for ED, it's just they seem to be on the mindset right now that ED won't be available or have the 7% rebate. I'm not sure of us Canadians can do the performance centre thing.

The only other dealer in my city is owned by the same guy, so that doesn't help me any. The next closest dealer is over 300km away (200mi). The dealers at that distance I know are just as terrible as the city they're in, so I'll pass on even walking through their doors. Vancouver has a couple of good dealers, but that's a 1000km trip. That's too far for me to bother trying to save a few bucks.

[B-1Pilot]

I paid $2000 over ED invoice (about 13% below US MSRP) on my M5, and it was one of the first 3 competition pack EDs. Only reason I paid 2k was because 1k went to my client advisor, and 1k went to the other dealership we had to get the allocation from.

My CA traded a 1st off X5 allocation, and an M3 allocation to get it -- the dealership wanted another grand or so to go to the F&I and managers, but I wouldn't budge, since it was wholly a paperwork sale for them. I bought the car from a dealership in VA, and had it delivered to a dealership in TX where I was stationed at the time.

Moral of the story -- find a dealer willing to work with you, anywhere in the country, if you are going to do an ED. Realize how allocations are doled out may create an overpriced market, at least at first. I don't think any dealer has any idea of how many allocations they will get or how they will work yet -- in the old school days, ED's did not come out of dealer allocation, so $1000 over invoice was pretty easy to get through since it didn't take a car off of that dealer's lot. In places like Cali, bespoke M's can go for $10k-25K over invoice. But that dealer in middle of nowhere America, may not even go for a M2 allocation because they think it will just sit on their lot or they will have to do a bunch of work to get to another dealership eventually -- find that dealership, and offer them an easy couple grand over invoice to do the paperwork, and they may bite. For at least the near term, I would guess that 1-3k below MSRP for the first M2s off the line would be a fantastic deal. If they decide to produce this car at M3/4/5/6 volume, end of 2016 MY deals will be great.

[PackPride85]

If you do ED + PCD you essentially have the option of trying every dealer in the country (without paying transport fees to have it shipped locally). I believe that's 300+.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by B-1Pilot

For at least the near term, I would guess that 1-3k below invoice for the first M2s off the line would be a fantastic deal.

I'm guessing you meant 1-3k below MSRP not 1-3k below invoice. Otherwise, yes, that would be a fantastic deal. More accurately, fantastic +++

[filet.M2c]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but If you ED order through another state's dealership, what taxes do you pay?

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by synergist

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but If you ED order through another state's dealership, what taxes do you pay?

The taxes of the state you plate the car in.

[filet.M2c]

Originally Posted by B-1Pilot

The taxes of the state you plate the car in.

Ah damn, I was thinking maybe you could avoid state taxes all together by ordering through Montana or something hah... but does that mean you pay taxes at the time of purchase or at the MVD when the car gets shipped from Europe? Because in AZ you don't pay taxes on "used" cars

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by synergist

Ah damn, I was thinking maybe you could avoid state taxes all together by ordering through Montana or something hah... but does that mean you pay taxes at the time of purchase or at the MVD when the car gets shipped from Europe? Because in AZ you don't pay taxes on "used" cars

Short answer is it depends (are you buy or lease? state requirement?) Though the car is technically yours even before you pick it up, it is temp registered and insured overseas for ED. Once you take final delivery it will need to have temp tags of the state you pick up in. All of this paperwork usually has to be done at the purchasing dealership before you even go overseas. All good dealerships should be able to register a car in any state. For most states, the car is considered new unless it has been previously registered and/or it is 6 months old. I even had a certain state try to full sales tax my wife's 1 year old 3 series that she brought back from military assignment in England!

[filet.M2c]

Originally Posted by B-1Pilot

Short answer is it depends (are you buy or lease? state requirement?) Though the car is technically yours even before you pick it up, it is temp registered and insured overseas for ED. Once you take final delivery it will need to have temp tags of the state you pick up in. All of this paperwork usually has to be done at the purchasing dealership before you even go overseas. All good dealerships should be able to register a car in any state. For most states, the car is considered new unless it has been previously registered and/or it is 6 months old. I even had a certain state try to full sales tax my wife's 1 year old 3 series that she brought back from military assignment in England!

I will most likely buy. I'll have to research the AZ rules, because as if ED isn't desirable enough adding no taxes would make it impossible to pass up.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by synergist

I will most likely buy. I'll have to research the AZ rules, because as if ED isn't desirable enough adding no taxes would make it impossible to pass up.

If you are in the military, and AZ tax rates are not to your liking, you may want to research military residency requirements for states with lower tax rates. A Google search will reveal which states they are. It may be possible to complete the process entirely by mail.

[Doctor///M]

Originally Posted by Twix

I also asked about my BMWCCA discount, and they said that might not be available either.

You will still get the CCA rebate provided your membership is at least 12 months, but that's done directly through the CCA and not the dealer.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by Doctor///M

You will still get the CCA rebate provided your membership is at least 12 months, but that's done directly through the CCA and not the dealer.

Only if the M2 is listed.... not all the cars are listed at launch

[bubsterino]

Originally Posted by synergist

$55-57K? I hope that is drastically wrong

drastically? what are you expecting out of curiosity?

[filet.M2c]

Originally Posted by bubsterino

drastically? what are you expecting out of curiosity?

Ideally $51-53K base price

[bubsterino]

Originally Posted by synergist

Ideally $51-53K base price

Ok. Your high end and the previous poster's low end are only 5 points apart. Not sure if that's drastic bit agreed that every K counts.

[W///]

Originally Posted by synergist

Ideally $51-53K base price

I think that's completely realistic. I also expect the same base price.