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      08-30-2015, 02:10 PM   #529
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Confirmed on these images.
I can't make out any size numbers on those tires. So, how's anything being confirmed?
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      08-30-2015, 02:14 PM   #530
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I can see the 265 and the 245 in the pics.


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I can't make out any size numbers on those tires. So, how's anything being confirmed?
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      08-30-2015, 02:17 PM   #531
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I can't make out any size numbers on those tires. So, how's anything being confirmed?
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I can see the 265 and the 245 in the pics.
Exactly, you can clearly see the sizes if you look.
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      08-30-2015, 02:27 PM   #532
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I can't make out any size numbers on those tires. So, how's anything being confirmed?
First pic at 7 o'clock you can just catch the 245. Second pic the 265 is at about 5 o'clock.
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      08-30-2015, 02:29 PM   #533
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I can see the 245 and 265's. If they are using narrower tire sizes one can assume they are using narrower wheel sizes, meaning they weren't directly taken from the M3/4 parts bin

The first thing I would plan on doing is swapping to silver wheels, and the plan was to use the stock M3/4 wheels.
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I can see the 245 and 265's. If they are using narrower tire sizes one can assume they are using narrower wheel sizes, meaning they weren't directly taken from the M3/4 parts bin

The first thing I would plan on doing is swapping to silver wheels, and the plan was to use the stock M3/4 wheels.
BMW used the same size tires on 9"/10" on the E92/1M so it can be the same wheels.
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      08-30-2015, 02:47 PM   #535
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I can see the 245 and 265's. If they are using narrower tire sizes one can assume they are using narrower wheel sizes, meaning they weren't directly taken from the M3/4 parts bin

The first thing I would plan on doing is swapping to silver wheels, and the plan was to use the stock M3/4 wheels.
The rears have about the same amount of stretch I have with my 265s on a 10" wheel. They look like 10" to me.
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      08-30-2015, 03:45 PM   #536
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Oh wow, these look nice. sometimes i wish OEM has the option to do this color on the wheels.
I personally think the OEM finish is so much better personally. I know I wouldn't pay for it on the M3 because there's a very high possibility I'd get aftermarket replacements anyway. But if they are going to include it on the M2, I'm not going to complain. I think it's going to look stunning on all the exterior colors, but especially on LBB:



I'll most likely get some aggressive spacers to begin with. I think I'd be really happy with that setup.
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I personally think the OEM finish is so much better personally. I know I wouldn't pay for it on the M3 because there's a very high possibility I'd get aftermarket replacements anyway. But if they are going to include it on the M2, I'm not going to complain. I think it's going to look stunning on all the exterior colors, but especially on LBB:



I'll most likely get some aggressive spacers to begin with. I think I'd be really happy with that setup.
I agree, the black with machined face wheels do look good. Not going to complain about that. I guess I was just wishing for some more options available. I heard about some dealers doing custom paint before delivery which is always an option. This is probably my first car that I'm going to stick with the stock wheel considering how good they look.

Now Just need to see the production wheels on a production M2 then I'm set. I'm sure these black 437M will look great on my MG M2
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      08-30-2015, 04:38 PM   #538
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I keep hearing that spacers on a performance car especially are a bad idea. Wanted to put some on my M235i but my friends suggested otherwise, something to do with the centrifugal force etc etc
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      08-30-2015, 04:39 PM   #539
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Yup, 245 and 265 are the sizes there. They have the familiar stretch on a 9 and 10 inch wheel. I didn't think we'd get the big boy sizes, they'd cost more. Maybe they'll surprise us.
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I keep hearing that spacers on a performance car especially are a bad idea. Wanted to put some on my M235i but my friends suggested otherwise, something to do with the centrifugal force etc etc
Not true. Spacer's are used a lot on performance cars, mainly for brake clearance. I wouldn't sweat quality hubcentric spacers that are properly sized.
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I keep hearing that spacers on a performance car especially are a bad idea. Wanted to put some on my M235i but my friends suggested otherwise, something to do with the centrifugal force etc etc
It's not ideal, but it's far from a bad idea.
Yes, they add very slightly more weight that you'll never feel anyway. But if you don't put them on right or have a bad set of spacers, they'll create vibrations.

Either way, I've never had problems with mine. I'd of course rather run a proper set of wheels like I do on my E92, but spacers are a good option too if you want to stick with OEM wheels.
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I keep hearing that spacers on a performance car especially are a bad idea. Wanted to put some on my M235i but my friends suggested otherwise, something to do with the centrifugal force etc etc
Not true. Spacer's are used a lot on performance cars, mainly for brake clearance. I wouldn't sweat quality hubcentric spacers that are properly sized.
True. I have used them on many cars never had a problem.
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I keep hearing that spacers on a performance car especially are a bad idea. Wanted to put some on my M235i but my friends suggested otherwise, something to do with the centrifugal force etc etc
F's up your suspension geometry, puts more stress on the hub, lug nuts, wheel bearing, etc. Ghetto way of making it look like you have wider wheels and tires.

But hey, if you're a "stance" guy, knock yourself out.
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F's up your suspension geometry, puts more stress on the hub, lug nuts, wheel bearing, etc. Ghetto way of making it look like you have wider wheels and tires.

But hey, if you're a "stance" guy, knock yourself out.
That argument is completely invalid when you realize that a wheel with the same width, but different offset (which achieves the same thing as adding the spacer) has the same effect from a static and dynamic load analysis standpoint. Either you add that thickness to the hub of the wheel or you get it with the spacer. It makes no difference. Get over it. Porsche has spacers in their catalog for use with all Porches in fact.
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That argument is completely invalid when you realize that a wheel with the same width, but different offset (which achieves the same thing as adding the spacer) has the same effect from a static and dynamic load analysis standpoint. Either you add that thickness to the hub of the wheel or you get it with the spacer. It makes no difference. Get over it. Porsche has spacers in their catalog for use with all Porches in fact.
There is a huge difference between spacers, and wider wheels with smaller offset (greater ET). The former only makes them move outside, thus creating additional moments from gravity (and other) forces that the car designer didn't assume; the latter has the plane of symmetry as original (narrower) wheels, thus not introducing any additional loads.
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That argument is completely invalid when you realize that a wheel with the same width, but different offset (which achieves the same thing as adding the spacer) has the same effect from a static and dynamic load analysis standpoint. Either you add that thickness to the hub of the wheel or you get it with the spacer. It makes no difference. Get over it. Porsche has spacers in their catalog for use with all Porches in fact.
The best solution is to install wider tires on wider wheels with the same offset.
The width increases inboard and outboard of the centerline by an equal amount.
Sorry I didn't make that clear in my original comment.

And yeah, I got over it years ago.
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The best solution is to install wider tires on wider wheels with the same offset.
^^^ Exactly what I mean.
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Yes I understand what you guys are saying. But the argument I'm trying to make is that people put wheels with lower offsets (but the same width as original) on cars all the time, and Noone complains about loading. It's only when a spacer is used that people start to feel uneasy about it. It's the same thing though of course.

Believe me as a mechanical design engineer, the designer took the extra loading into account by way of excessive factor of safety for these kinds of parts in modern cars. Also, you're wrong that the wider wheel and tire with lower offset is not inducing more loads. At the limit, when these things matter most, the inevitably grater unsprung weight of the larger wheel (all else being equal) will induce more loading than the original wheel and tire package. Whether that is greater than the forces generated by the wheel with lower offset but same width is a matter of how great the offset difference. Making blanket statements about spacers being unsafe is just plain ignorant, but something that the bench racer/Internet engineers seem to accept readily.
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Yes I understand what you guys are saying. But the argument I'm trying to make is that people put wheels with lower offsets (but the same width as original) on cars all the time, and Noone complains about loading. It's only when a spacer is used that people start to feel uneasy about it. It's the same thing though of course.

Believe me as a mechanical design engineer, the designer took the extra loading into account by way of excessive factor of safety for these kinds of parts in modern cars. Also, you're wrong that the wider wheel and tire with lower offset is not inducing more loads. At the limit, when these things matter most, the inevitably grater unsprung weight of the larger wheel (all else being equal) will induce more loading than the original wheel and tire package. Whether that is greater than the forces generated by the wheel with lower offset but same width is a matter of how great the offset difference. Making blanket statements about spacers being unsafe is just plain ignorant, but something that the bench racer/Internet engineers seem to accept readily.
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