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      04-28-2017, 12:08 PM   #45
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I have reservations about a sequence that closes the garage door before the engine is shut off. With AutoStartStop enabled, the engine shutoff step could easily be overlooked. If the garage is attached to a dwelling, the results could be deadly.
I don't think you should be concerned about this.

With AutoStartStop enabled and the engine in standby, the car should automatically turn off in a few minutes if it is in 'P', and especially if you lock the doors. At least that how it is in Eco mode.

I found this feature annoying when I was just jumping out to grab something and had to restart the car upon returning, but now I realize this may actually be a safety feature too.
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      04-28-2017, 12:33 PM   #46
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It is mentioned on mine, it states;

"Component Protection • After-running of electric coolant pump = improved heat dissipation from engine switch off point. Allows protection of turbochargers by reduced oil coking during heat soak."

Letting the turbos cool, either via an easy run for a few kilometers or a short idle before shutdown hurts nothing and adds protection. Better safe than sorry...
First of all, there is something wrong with your "quote" because BMW owner's manuals don't have an equals sign in the middle of a sentence, but I am curious about what it actually says. Second, I think you're misunderstanding what that says. It's saying the car will continue to run the electric water pump AFTER you turn off the engine, if necessary. It's not saying that you should run the engine longer to cool the turbos.

Also, running the engine does waste fuel and pollute the environment, so to say that it "hurts nothing" is a mischaracterization. As far as adding protection, there is literally no evidence to support that claim.
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Can it be coded so one pull of the handle unlocks and opens the door?
Not exactly. You can code the doors to unlock when the car goes into park, and then a single pull will open the door.
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      04-29-2017, 11:16 AM   #48
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Not exactly. You can code the doors to unlock when the car goes into park, and then a single pull will open the door.
Well that blows...

There are times I have to park in some shady areas... And I'd like my car to stay locked till I ready to get out... And this double pull thing drives me crazy.. because most times, I'm not in these shady areas.

BTW, my buddy told me to get a helmet because I might get stabbed in the head through the soft top. LOL
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Well that blows...

There are times I have to park in some shady areas... And I'd like my car to stay locked till I ready to get out... And this double pull thing drives me crazy.. because most times, I'm not in these shady areas.

BTW, my buddy told me to get a helmet because I might get stabbed in the head through the soft top. LOL
just don't turn the car off till you are ready to get out and it will not unlock
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      07-20-2017, 09:39 PM   #50
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So what do you guys with manuals do? I'm on my ED right now and I came from a automatic F32 so the two button off sequence is normal to me, but having a clutch is not . Do you guys press the off button the first time with both feet on the brake pedal and clutch, then take both feet off and press it again? Or park in neutral, turn off the car the way you would in an automatic, and then put the car in gear incentive it is off?
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      07-21-2017, 06:59 AM   #51
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I don't see how it's any different than any manual. Neutral, hand brake, feet off, turn off, put in gear.
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      07-21-2017, 09:09 AM   #52
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Clutch pedal in,foot on brake, set E-brake,press button,clutch pedal out, press button again.
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      07-21-2017, 10:21 AM   #53
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Clutch pedal in,foot on brake, set E-brake,press button,clutch pedal out, press button again.
Similar to drive-up ATM procedure:

1. Enter PIN
2. Enter $ amount
3. Take cash
4. Drive away
5. Take next on ramp
6. Release parking brake
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      07-23-2017, 03:28 PM   #54
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Just think of it this way:

The first press puts the car into park, so it's not really an increased number of actions that you have the take because it replaces the need to put it into P. Instead of pressing one button to put it into park, and then pressing another button somewhere else to shut the car off, you just press one single button twice.
Yes, if you have AT. Otherwise, not. And the MT sequence is a little fussier. If you engage the clutch after stopping with the car in gear and the engine running, you'll kill it with a lurch. So: clutch in, then one press, then clutch out for second press, or else neutral first, then engage first or reverse after engine stops; and if you depress the clutch to make that shift, be sure to release it again before this second press, otherwise you're starting over.
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      07-23-2017, 03:40 PM   #55
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Yes, if you have AT. Otherwise, not. And the MT sequence is a little fussier. If you engage the clutch after stopping with the car in gear and the engine running, you'll kill it with a lurch. So: clutch in, then one press, then clutch out for second press, or else neutral first, then engage first or reverse after engine stops; and if you depress the clutch to make that shift, be sure to release it again before this second press, otherwise you're starting over.
I'm missing something here. When I pull into my garage or a parking spot:

1) Stop with right foot, while depressing clutch
2) Shift into neutral holding right foot on brake
3) Release clutch
4) Lift parking brake
5) Press ignition button once to turn off engine
6) Engage 1st or reverse depending on any slope in the ground.
Total time = ~ 3 seconds.

Why are you having to press the ignition button twice?
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For me, it's to shut off the idrive immediately, rather than having it shut itself off in 5 minutes or what ever the time is.
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Similar to drive-up ATM procedure:

1. Enter PIN
2. Enter $ amount
3. Take cash
4. Drive away
5. Take next on ramp
6. Release parking brake
Except it's easier on the bank account. (and your e-brake)

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      07-23-2017, 08:57 PM   #58
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I'm missing something here. When I pull into my garage or a parking spot:

1) Stop with right foot, while depressing clutch
2) Shift into neutral holding right foot on brake
3) Release clutch
4) Lift parking brake
5) Press ignition button once to turn off engine
6) Engage 1st or reverse depending on any slope in the ground.
Total time = ~ 3 seconds.

Why are you having to press the ignition button twice?
First off, I have the automatic transmission.

1. Press brake pedal until stopped.
2. Push the "P" for Park button.
3. Set parking brake.
4. Push "Start" button twice (the first push stops the engine. The second push shuts off the screen and other electrics).
5. Pull door handle twice to exit vehicle.

Just the way it is. I've done it so many times, I don't even have to think about it anymore. Habit.
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First off, I have the automatic transmission.

1. Press brake pedal until stopped.
2. Push the "P" for Park button.
3. Set parking brake.
4. Push "Start" button twice (the first push stops the engine. The second push shuts off the screen and other electrics).
5. Pull door handle twice to exit vehicle.

Just the way it is. I've done it so many times, I don't even have to think about it anymore. Habit.
Yes, I understand. I was reacting to Raleedy just above my post. Now that I think back, I believe the whole "second push" issue was resolved with coding soon after I got the vehicle...three years ago, so slipped my mind at first. Radio off and door unlock/open on first door handle pull. I agree it's down to a subconscious habit, but the coding really made it seem friendlier before it became an automatic behavior.
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Yes, I understand. I was reacting to Raleedy just above my post. Now that I think back, I believe the whole "second push" issue was resolved with coding soon after I got the vehicle...three years ago, so slipped my mind at first. Radio off and door unlock/open on first door handle pull. I agree it's down to a subconscious habit, but the coding really made it seem friendlier before it became an automatic behavior.
Coded it out before a full month of ownership. I hated the double press. It's pretty awesome now. I even have my seat slide back a bit when I turn the car off. It slides back into position when I turn the car on.
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There is no need to press the Park button when turning off the engine. Pressing the START button will put the transmission in Park when it turns off the engine.
And if you routinely lock the car when you exit, locking will turn off the ignition and accessories.
So under most circumstances one press is enough.
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Holy thread rescue! What's the "coding" being referred to? Something additional that needs to be added or just operator/driver reconfiguration? The double push is annoying and I want it to work like my other car.... push to stop, radio stays on until driver's door is opened, one pull to open door.
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Holy thread rescue! What's the "coding" being referred to? Something additional that needs to be added or just operator/driver reconfiguration? The double push is annoying and I want it to work like my other car.... push to stop, radio stays on until driver's door is opened, one pull to open door.
Check the coding threads - it's one of the basic parameters in FEM.
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Check the coding threads - it's one of the basic parameters in FEM.
Thanks ..... if anyone's interested:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997749
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Can it be coded so one pull of the handle unlocks and opens the door?
Indirectly, using the iDrive setting to drive with doors unlocked.
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I never liked a system that produces a different result from the same press of the same button depending on the state of something else that is not shown. The START button has at least four functions: (1) energizing the electrical system; (2) the start engine sequence; (3) engine stop; and (4) shutting down the electrical system. I think this is bad ergonomics, even without regard to the need to unlock the doors before you can open them.
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