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      02-17-2015, 02:22 AM   #67
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Should we use 54-12208 for N55 instead?
Yes, that's the part number I used on my m135i. It will fit an m235i so as Chaddy says for $75 part, I say go for it.......
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Yes, that's the part number I used on my m135i. It will fit an m235i so as Chaddy says for $75 part, I say go for it.......
I don't really understand what the product does. Doesn't the M235i already have a factory air scoop?

Also, can you provide link to the correct one on AFE website?

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I read through the thread and I'm a bit confused, lets say you only do the Race chip and leave it at the standard setting, what hp gains are we looking at?

Also how does the car adapt to the RC? Is the car still running smoothly or does it have hiccups sometimes?
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I don't really understand what the product does. Doesn't the M235i already have a factory air scoop?

Also, can you provide link to the correct one on AFE website?

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It deflects and force feeds cooler and a larger volume of air directly into the airbox for WOT heavy acceleration .... !!
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Also, can you provide link to the correct one on AFE website?

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      02-17-2015, 07:29 AM   #72
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I thoughts there was only one !! sorry mate !! Yeah the 08 number looks better !!
dtcoff , chaddy74 , configt , I sent a message yesterday to an aFe seller and they replied that this part number 54-12208 won't fit our cars. On November I asked another seller about another scoop with part number 54-12218, same answer, not for the M235i. (see attachments of their responses)

If any of these two really fits our cars and someone dares to take the risk and buy it, please let us know, 'cause if it fits, I will go with one but in carbon fiber
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I read through the thread and I'm a bit confused, lets say you only do the Race chip and leave it at the standard setting, what hp gains are we looking at?

Also how does the car adapt to the RC? Is the car still running smoothly or does it have hiccups sometimes?
Hey Morne235 , RaceChip numbers for their "Ultimate" box (remember that they have 3 boxes models) with no mods are 379HP and 535 Nm of torque. If you do additional performance mods, you should get more gains.

http://www.racechip.com/chiptuning/b...40kw/index.php

Now about your other question, I used the car for one and a half days, did some testing runs (hard acceleration drags) and traffic driving, no problems at all. I've tested it in Sport and Comfort, not a single problem nor a CEL error.

I suggest you to read my first impressions within this thread:
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=18

Let me know if this helps

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I read through the thread and I'm a bit confused, lets say you only do the Race chip and leave it at the standard setting, what hp gains are we looking at?

Also how does the car adapt to the RC? Is the car still running smoothly or does it have hiccups sometimes?
The car adapts instantly but for me it seems to get better the more you drive it in that setting, with Racechip you don't need to go into Sport or Sport+ in order to feel it
I do recommend from my own testing that 50-100 miles is where I noticed it even more as well you get to see the MPG numbers.

I drive mostly in EcoPro where there is most lag and it is gone now. Comfort is much more awake than EcoPro and I go into Sport for curves or when I want to be as aggressive as possible with Sport+ and more steering feel control.
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The car adapts instantly but for me it seems to get better the more you drive it in that setting, with Racechip you don't need to go into Sport or Sport+ in order to feel it
I do recommend from my own testing that 50-100 miles is where I noticed it even more as well you get to see the MPG numbers.

I drive mostly in EcoPro where there is most lag and it is gone now. Comfort is much more awake than EcoPro and I go into Sport for curves or when I want to be as aggressive as possible with Sport+ and more steering feel control.
Very good point Rob, I tried Comfort acceleration yesterday and it I felt a big change. Now I will try EcoPro and see about the lag, because that setting kills peformance like in 95% hehe, I use it when in heavy traffic, but once in a while, traffic tends to move faster and need to push on the gas, there is when I say "where the hell are my 450Nm of torque?" LOL

I'll let you know how it goes with EcoPro bro

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Very good point Rob, I tried Comfort acceleration yesterday and it I felt a big change. Now I will try EcoPro and see about the lag, because that setting kills peformance like in 95% hehe, I use it when in heavy traffic, but once in a while, traffic tends to move faster and need to push on the gas, there is when I say "where the hell are my 450Nm of torque?" LOL

I'll let you know how it goes with EcoPro bro
Hey Alex, you'll definitely feel lag in stock settings in EcoPro. I would suggest you turn your S2 up by 1-2 settings for the EcoPro to reduce the throttle lag and improve response in all modes. I had major throttle log on my F15 50i at stock settings. The car was definitely faster, but just going 1 setting up in S2 changed the 50i into a monster. Everything improved dramatically. If you really want to take advantage of your chip's capability, I would at least go up 1-2 settings. I plan on updating my setting to S2=D (2 ticks above the stock S2=B) when I get a chance based on all the positive feedback setting D has for the N63tu motor.
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Hey Alex, you'll definitely feel lag in stock settings in EcoPro. I would suggest you turn your S2 up by 1-2 settings for the EcoPro to reduce the throttle lag and improve response in all modes. I had major throttle log on my F15 50i at stock settings. The car was definitely faster, but just going 1 setting up in S2 changed the 50i into a monster. Everything improved dramatically. If you really want to take advantage of your chip's capability, I would at least go up 1-2 settings. I plan on updating my setting to S2=D (2 ticks above the stock S2=B) when I get a chance based on all the positive feedback setting D has for the N63tu motor.
I appreciate sharing this suggestion with me opasha . Yes, stock EcoPro is very very bad hehe. About changing the my S2 settings, since I'm in Guatemala and in here we have 95 octane RON (which is not that good), I was advised by Delnari to stick with the factory settings from RaceChip, since I might get engine knock and/or CEL errors.

So far I'm very happy with the results I got with the factory settings If I get the chance to get my hands on some VP racing fuel, I will definitely try to jump to these suggested settings and let you guys know.

Thanks again opa
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Can someone explain how the settings are adjusted? Are there dip switches on the module or what? Thanks in advance!

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I appreciate sharing this suggestion with me opasha . Yes, stock EcoPro is very very bad hehe. About changing the my S2 settings, since I'm in Guatemala and in here we have 95 octane RON (which is not that good), I was advised by Delnari to stick with the factory settings from RaceChip, since I might get engine knock and/or CEL errors.

So far I'm very happy with the results I got with the factory settings If I get the chance to get my hands on some VP racing fuel, I will definitely try to jump to these suggested settings and let you guys know.

Thanks again opa
95 RON is prob 91 Octane right?
98 RON is prob 93 octane if I'm not mistaken

You'll be ok after a 50-100 miles of testing your current settings you can proceed to 1 notch increase drive 50-100 miles at least and see your thoughts and feel. Then again 1 increase.. as Delnari and Chaddy74 advised in your engine they don't recommend above F.

B, C, D, E , so you have 3 settings before F
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Can someone explain how the settings are adjusted? Are there dip switches on the module or what? Thanks in advance!

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Sure man, check out this video:

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Sure man, check out this video:

LOL , you beat me to it ROBNYC
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I appreciate sharing this suggestion with me opasha . Yes, stock EcoPro is very very bad hehe. About changing the my S2 settings, since I'm in Guatemala and in here we have 95 octane RON (which is not that good), I was advised by Delnari to stick with the factory settings from RaceChip, since I might get engine knock and/or CEL errors.

So far I'm very happy with the results I got with the factory settings If I get the chance to get my hands on some VP racing fuel, I will definitely try to jump to these suggested settings and let you guys know.

Thanks again opa
My pleasure, Alex. As Rob stated here are the conversions:

USA (AKI/PON) --- Europe (RON)

87 = 91
89 = 93
91 = 95
93 = 98

Trust me, you'll be perfectly fine at 1-2 settings above. The people going higher are the ones messing with CEL errors in the future if their engine can't handle it. I would definitely do it. I'm not some random tester either. I've done my research and participated actively in the F15 discussion forum since RaceChip started to grow and more people started buying it. You have nothing to lose by testing just 1 setting above. However, it is your car, and it's up to you. I was scared myself since no one had any information on my engine and no one really had info on RaceChip on any petrol engine in the F15 forum. However, after all the info, things have changed quite a bit with many testers on 35i, 35d, and (3 on the 50i - me being one of them). Even on C, I'm very happy. However, as told by an M6 member thedragonseven, D makes it perform even better.

Also, for everyone wondering. The screws take a Torx T10 screwdriver. I bought a full kit and it will make your life so much easier when unscrewing and re-screwing the cover back on because their tool is pretty terrible/slow lol. This is what I bought. It's made very well: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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95 RON is prob 91 Octane right?
98 RON is prob 93 octane if I'm not mistaken

You'll be ok after a 50-100 miles of testing your current settings you can proceed to 1 notch increase drive 50-100 miles at least and see your thoughts and feel. Then again 1 increase.. as Delnari and Chaddy74 advised in your engine they don't recommend above F.

B, C, D, E , so you have 3 settings before F
Oh, OK, cool. I will do more testing/driving and will try later the settings suggested
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My pleasure, Alex. As Rob stated here are the conversions:

USA (AKI/PON) --- Europe (RON)

87 = 91
89 = 93
91 = 95
93 = 98

Trust me, you'll be perfectly fine at 1-2 settings above. The people going higher are the ones messing with CEL errors in the future if their engine can't handle it. I would definitely do it. I'm not some random tester either. I've done my research and participated actively in the F15 discussion forum since RaceChip started to grow and more people started buying it. You have nothing to lose by testing just 1 setting above. However, it is your car, and it's up to you. I was scared myself since no one had any information on my engine and no one really had info on RaceChip on any petrol engine in the F15 forum. However, after all the info, things have changed quite a bit with many testers on 35i, 35d, and (3 on the 50i - me being one of them). Even on C, I'm very happy. However, as told by an M6 member thedragonseven, D makes it perform even better.
Thanks my friend, I will take your advise, will try those settings once I use the car for 200-250kms with the factory settings... but to be honest, I'm scared of moving to higher settings, LOL, scared as in "if I feel my car turned to a beast with the factory settings, what can I expect if I go higher?"
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Thanks!

Seems like an interesting tune........

Just curious, why would anyone choose this tune over lets just say a JB4 stage 2? Doesn't really seem like it has any benefits over a JB4 (No data logging, CEL removal for DP, meth control, etc...).

Not knocking it but not being able to data log to see if my engine is happy or not would be a serious draw back to me. Am I missing something?

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Thanks my friend, I will take your advise, will try those settings once I use the car for 200-250kms with the factory settings... but to be honest, I'm scared of moving to higher settings, LOL, scared as in "if I feel my car turned to a beast with the factory settings, what can I expect if I go higher?"
At that point your common sense should kick in if you want to keep your engine running great for a long time if you own your car. I own mine and plan on keeping it for a while, which is why I've modded it to the degree I have: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1032521. If you want, you can read up on different settings and discussions here: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1078371.

I think as Rob and Delnari said, if you go beyond F, you'll be facing CEL at some point because of the wear/tear. Think of it like an athlete taking a performance enhancement drug. If the athlete starts to venture outside the suggested directions and abuses it, he will run into issues. The heart will only be able to keep up to a certain degree before it gets strained and works too hard eventually leading to a heart attack. You can think of the engine as the heart and the CEL as the heart attack.
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Thanks!

Seems like an interesting tune........

Just curious, why would anyone choose this tune over lets just say a JB4 stage 2? Doesn't really seem like it has any benefits over a JB4 (No data logging, CEL removal for DP, meth control, etc...).

Not knocking it but not being able to data log to see if my engine is happy or not would be a serious draw back to me. Am I missing something?

-Nick
Yes, the JB4 will give more tuning options and allow for custom tuning as you swap out factory parts for higher performance ones. What the Racechip, BMS Stage 1, and aFe Scorcher offer is a quick connect/disconnect using just 2 sensors. Make those who worry about dealer warranty the ability to remove quickly when they take their cars in for factory service. These piggyback systems are more plug-n-play and forget with nice performance gains.
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