01-25-2017, 11:37 PM | #1 |
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Possible fuel pump failure 2015 M235i
Well, I thought this was fixed in this year's model, but I believe my fuel pump has gone out. Starting up the car reveals an awful choking sound with the rpms varying drastically. At this point, I have two options. Either remove the mods and take to the dealer or find a third party shop to do the work.
My dealer has never raised a stink about my mods when it came to maintenance in the past, so I wouldn't rule them out entirely in getting it fixed. What do y'all think would be my best course of action? Build list in signature.
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01-26-2017, 05:52 AM | #2 |
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Pull a log from the JB4 and look at fp_h value? If it's crazy low then I think it would be fairly safe to assume to HPFP is on its way out.
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Recheck your clamps on the intake. I had a similar experience only to find that I simply had a loose clamp on the filter
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I am honestly baffled. I started up the car yesterday and it ran like it never had an issue. Drove around for 30-40 mins with no problems whatsoever. I think my JB4 might be going haywire or something.
170206_2229.zip I've attached a csv log of some moderate pulls, whichever map is stock performance with jb4 enabled. I really don't want to push the car hard until I know for sure what is causing this issue. Pulling codes from jb4 only gives me an "exhaust flapper disabled"...
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I have a feeling it is your intake. There a handful of threads with similar issues with the intake. Try taking it off and running it around for a couple weeks without it and see if you have different results.
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02-16-2017, 07:42 PM | #11 |
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I will put money down saying it's not your intake and i can bloody guarantee its not your HPFP.
Try using different top tier fuel from top tier fuel stations and see if the problem goes away. This issue is typically caused by a few different problems and this is a very common and on going issue with the the N55 engine. if the Different fuel didn't make a difference over the next month, id have it inspected, Eccentric shafts on the valvetronic can develop the slightest amount of grooving/wear into them and it will cause them too become stiff and somewhat bind on start up (there is a test plan through the BMW tester from your dealer for them to test this). Another issue is the Hook ring seals on the front of the Intake camshaft start to wear through aluminum in the cylinder head and bleed oil pressure from the Vanos control unit which causes the Vanos unit not able to adjust fully since it's loosing oil pressure (this will usually trigger a 2A80D fault tho and in most cases a C.E.L as well) The last issue i have seen is Injectors. You can try running the car from Map 1-map 2 and Map 5 to see if the problem changes.. see if the idle issue happens on Map 0? it would help narrow down your issue if its a software/tune issue on the JB4 or something else. Sorry if it is a long message and i hope it was somewhat useful. Also there is a current Recall on almost all Models with N55 Engines to replace the LPFP - Contact your dealer and give them your VIN to find out if your vehicle applys to the recall or not. if anyone finds this issue being caused by a HPFP please message me showing documentation cause every since the old HPFP recall.. i've never heard/seen of one going.
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I called a local BMW dealer today to check on my warranty. I asked the SA if my LPFP had been replaced under recall and he said no but the warranty on it had been extended for 9 years 120,000mi. I told him others with 14' m235i's had been getting calls or having replaced once in for service as recall. I asked him what would happen if I came in and requested a replacement and he said they would not honor a replacement under warranty without diagnostics showing issues. Anyone else had this replaced..?
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Not to sure if this helps ur case.
let me know if this Link doesnt work. Looks like 2011-2014 with in those build months.
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I will try and copy and paste the entire recall when I get home from work
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Gestion Service/reception Réception / service Service/ workshop Atelier / service Service/warranty Garantie/service Parts and access. Pièces et access. Sales Ventes Fix it right the first time is our ultimate goal. 16 84 16 BMW Canada Inc Quality and Technical 1 Page 1 of 3 December 2016 Service Information Aftersales Service Fuel Supply Systems 16 84 16 Service Campaign PERFORM THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED IN THIS SERVICE INFORMATION ON ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES PRIOR TO RETAIL DELIVERY. WHERE THE VEHICLES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DELIVERED TO THE CUSTOMER, THE CUSTOMER SHOULD BE REQUESTED TO BRING THEIR VEHICLE INTO THE WORKSHOP IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SUBJECT Replace the fuel delivery unit MODEL F22 2 Series Coupe F30 3 Series Sedan F32 4 Series Coupe F33 4 Series Cabriolet F34 3 Series Gran Turismo SITUATION A special coating in the running wheel of the electric fuel pump may wear prematurely and may cause additional friction. Consequently, the fuel pump may no longer start running when the vehicle is started. AFFECTED VEHICLES This Service Action involves F22 2 Series Coupe, F30 3 Series Sedan, F32 4 Series Coupe, F33 4 Series Cabriolet and F34 3 Series Gran Turismo vehicles, equipped with a N55 engine and produced from October 18, 2011 to April 2, 2014. In order to determine if a specific vehicle is affected by this Service Action, it will be necessary to utilize ISPA. Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action. The Chassis Ranges listed below are only for informational purposes and are not to be considered as the only deciding factor. Management/ Gestion Service/reception Réception / service Service/ workshop Atelier / service Service/warranty Garantie/service Parts and access. Pièces et access. Sales Ventes Fix it right the first time is our ultimate goal. 16 84 16 BMW Canada Inc Quality and Technical 2 Model Model Code Chassis Range F22 1J73 VX33519 – VX33792 F22 1J83 VW84067 – VW84948 F30 3A03 F269600 – F271066 F30 3A03 F474870 – F479635 F30 3A03 FX59547 – FX59999 F30 3A93 F077636 – F078093 F30 3A93 F686007 – F686519 F30 3B03 F140017 – F140499 F30 3B03 F585000 – F588588 F30 3B03 J437025 – J437497 F30 3B03 J898900 – J899578 F30 3B03 P458005 – P459198 F30 3B93 F140510 – F140981 F30 3B93 F801014 – F801485 F30 3B93 J465617 – J466150 F30 3F03 F145061 – F484220 F32 3R13 F774015 – F774404 F32 3R23 F729101 – F729412 F32 3R23 K190047 – K191979 F32 3R53 F784510 – F785115 F32 3R63 F730029 – F730367 F32 3R63 K186043 – K188227 F33 3T43 J876441 – J877377 F33 3T43 P736606 – 736854 F34 3X03 D152736 – D153699 F34 3X03 D867604 – D867654 CORRECTION Replace the supply unit. PROCEDURE The electric fuel pump cannot be replaced separately. Therefore, the entire supply unit must be replaced. See repair instructions REP 16 14 010 Remove and refit/replace fuel pump (petrol vehicles). Management/ Gestion Service/reception Réception / service Service/ workshop Atelier / service Service/warranty Garantie/service Parts and access. Pièces et access. Sales Ventes Fix it right the first time is our ultimate goal. 16 84 16 BMW Canada Inc Quality and Technical 3 PARTS INFORMATION Part number Description Engine Quantity 16 11 7 243 975 Supply module N55 1 16 14 7 264 433 Supply module N55 Hybrid 1 16 11 7 188 567 O-ring All 1 16 11 7 428 463 O-ring All 1 Note: The two O-rings listed above are always required for replacing the delivery module. In principle, parts requiring replacement as part of a Technical Campaign are not subject to the TeileClearing process. WARRANTY INFORMATION Reimbursement for this Service Action will be via Campaign Entry. Note: The Labour Operations listed below include charging the battery and the Allowances are subject to change. Please always refer to KSD at time of actual warranty claim submission for the most current Labour Allowance information pertaining to this defect code. Defect Code 00 16 16 02 00 Description: Replace the right-hand supply module Labour Operation: 00 64 776 Labour Allowance: 8 FRU (F22) 7 FRU (F30, F32, F33, F34) Parts Allowance: As outlined above
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Apologize for it not being neat and organized lol.. i just clicked select all and copy/paste cause im lazy lol
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You know, it might actually have been the intake. I haven't taken it off yet, however it was extremely cold that day (probably 18F), and recently it hasn't been near that cold. I remember people saying that they sometimes have rough cold starts. I've been using Sunoco 93, I suppose I can try Shell 93 instead, but there aren't many shell stations near me.
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