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      11-07-2015, 09:05 AM   #1
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More ¼ mile results – my new bracket racer

I typically run map 5 and the car can have some pretty inconsistent results, so who knew it could make a good bracket racer. Not my quickest times, but not bad. I had one other run, but the car went into limp mode for some reason. I have no idea what my fuel is at this point. I used to assume E85 was 85% ethanol at the pump. It’s actually a maximum of 85% and can be as low as 75%. The way I mix fuel (straight from the pumps) is assuming 10% ethanol for 93 octane and 85% for E85 with a target mix of E37.

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Those are some IMPRESSIVE 60' times
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That's not bad AT ALL.
I'm at sea level, super hot weather (mid 80's) and with my Active 8 Box and catted downpipe my best time was 12.6 @ 113mph on my RWD M235i.
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Wow, that is quick! Great job! Are you using launch control?

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that's pretty damn quick for just jb4, dp, and e85.

i've never messed with ethanol, do you just estimate the mix your putting at the pump?
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OP mentioned he bought his car used. With these numbers I'm almost positive the previous owner upgraded the turbo. Still very impressive!
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OP mentioned he bought his car used. With these numbers I'm almost positive the previous owner upgraded the turbo. Still very impressive!
Not really... I mean, could be but you can achieve that millaje with just a JB4 and a downpipe.
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OP mentioned he bought his car used. With these numbers I'm almost positive the previous owner upgraded the turbo. Still very impressive!
Not really... I mean, could be but you can achieve that millaje with just a JB4 and a downpipe.
There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
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There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
I'm not really sure why your having a hard time accepting the guys times? My rwd m135i albeit a bit lighter is the same platform, stock EWG turbo, with jb4, decat on map 6 and E25 mix has run a 12.4s @ 118/119 with a 2.2s 60ft. My test area has a rubbish surface hence the rubbish 60, it's pretty clear with a good 60ft id have a 11 second time. This was via Vbox and I'll look to visit my local dragstrip in the new year but I know my Vbox runs exactly the same as my dragstrip, just like many others have confirmed to.
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OP mentioned he bought his car used. With these numbers I'm almost positive the previous owner upgraded the turbo. Still very impressive!
Absolutely possible with an XI. OP is not the only person to post numbers in the high 11's with just jb4, dp, and e85. I have seen probably about 4-5 other cars do the same.
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OP mentioned he bought his car used. With these numbers I'm almost positive the previous owner upgraded the turbo. Still very impressive!
Absolutely possible with an XI. OP is not the only person to post numbers in the high 11's with just jb4, dp, and e85. I have seen probably about 4-5 other cars do the same.
On stock tires?
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There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
His m235i is AWD not RWD
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On stock tires?
Yes stock run flats
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There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
The info he is referring to is contained on this board (search button) and it is true.
There is a way and I'm doing it. As previously stated if the car had a stage 1 turbo it would show up in my logs that have been posted on N54tech. It doesn't. There is one addition to my mod list, the car has an intercooler on it (helps keep the car cool during road racing).

JibHonk ran an 11.952 @ 115.19. 1.8x 60'. My 60's are in the 1.6's. I would say it seems very reasonable that I ran 11.8's. As a side note his previous best was 12.25 @ 115 2.0 60'. The difference, he puts slicks on (traction).

Yet your theory is that in the middle of 2014 someone got a hold of a stage 1 turbo (not sure if they were available at that point), put it on a brand new 2015 xdrive and then sold it 3 months later (oh, and they didn't bother upgrading the stock exhaust). And this is more feasible to you?

The reason I post my times is to grow the 2-series community and knowledge. I have been to the drag strip several times, road racing on a few different tracks, posted videos of these experiences and posted on this board with nothing to hide. I get that you don't believe my times, you made your point. As your responses add no value to my threads and take it down an unintended path I'd ask that you refrain from posting in them.

Out of curiosity, have you taken your car to a track yet? My Casper's concoction is still for sale if you need some
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Wow, that is quick! Great job! Are you using launch control?

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I've done with and without launch control. I think two of these were with and one without. My best 60' times were without launch control, but they're fairly similar either way.
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There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
The info he is referring to is contained on this board (search button) and it is true.
There is a way and I'm doing it. As previously stated if the car had a stage 1 turbo it would show up in my logs that have been posted on N54tech. It doesn't. There is one addition to my mod list, the car has an intercooler on it (helps keep the car cool during road racing).

JibHonk ran an 11.952 @ 115.19. 1.8x 60'. My 60's are in the 1.6's. I would say it seems very reasonable that I ran 11.8's. As a side note his previous best was 12.25 @ 115 2.0 60'. The difference, he puts slicks on (traction).

Yet your theory is that in the middle of 2014 someone got a hold of a stage 1 turbo (not sure if they were available at that point), put it on a brand new 2015 xdrive and then sold it 3 months later (oh, and they didn't bother upgrading the stock exhaust). And this is more feasible to you?

The reason I post my times is to grow the 2-series community and knowledge. I have been to the drag strip several times, road racing on a few different tracks, posted videos of these experiences and posted on this board with nothing to hide. I get that you don't believe my times, you made your point. As your responses add no value to my threads and take it down an unintended path I'd ask that you refrain from posting in them.

Out of curiosity, have you taken your car to a track yet? My Casper's concoction is still for sale if you need some
Woah I didn't mean to attack or insult you, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Personally I have spent a while searching and the only reports of people in the 11s I found were on slicks or upgraded turbos. My turbo theory was just an attempt to explain a result which to me seemed out of the norm. I apologize if I came across as being negative!

And to answer your question, yes I have tracked my car and always appreciate people taking the time to post their results.

Anyway, congrats on the awesome results!!!
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The 2er was running R888's.
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The 2er was running R888's.
Awesome vid, thanks for sharing!
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There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
The info he is referring to is contained on this board (search button) and it is true.
There is a way and I'm doing it. As previously stated if the car had a stage 1 turbo it would show up in my logs that have been posted on N54tech. It doesn't. There is one addition to my mod list, the car has an intercooler on it (helps keep the car cool during road racing).

JibHonk ran an 11.952 @ 115.19. 1.8x 60'. My 60's are in the 1.6's. I would say it seems very reasonable that I ran 11.8's. As a side note his previous best was 12.25 @ 115 2.0 60'. The difference, he puts slicks on (traction).

Yet your theory is that in the middle of 2014 someone got a hold of a stage 1 turbo (not sure if they were available at that point), put it on a brand new 2015 xdrive and then sold it 3 months later (oh, and they didn't bother upgrading the stock exhaust). And this is more feasible to you?

The reason I post my times is to grow the 2-series community and knowledge. I have been to the drag strip several times, road racing on a few different tracks, posted videos of these experiences and posted on this board with nothing to hide. I get that you don't believe my times, you made your point. As your responses add no value to my threads and take it down an unintended path I'd ask that you refrain from posting in them.

Out of curiosity, have you taken your car to a track yet? My Casper's concoction is still for sale if you need some
Woah I didn't mean to attack or insult you, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Personally I have spent a while searching and the only reports of people in the 11s I found were on slicks or upgraded turbos. My turbo theory was just an attempt to explain a result which to me seemed out of the norm. I apologize if I came across as being negative!

And to answer your question, yes I have tracked my car and always appreciate people taking the time to post their results.

Anyway, congrats on the awesome results!!!
It's not the 1st time someone has tried to question, attack, or discredit him. He has a plethora of evidence he's kindly shared with us and I thank him because it helps out this community.

So I'm sure he's tired of members trying to badger him to death about fake times...

You do realize M235's run 12.8 bone stock off the showroom right? Jb4 map2 and intake they run consistent low 12's....

casper83 has x drive cutting 60ft down here is key and his are killer 1.6 hence the 11.8's with a very consistent 115-116mph...what's so hard to believe?

And in 2012 burger put a 335i in the 11's with jb4 FBO +meth.

Don't need turbo upgrade to hit 11's and if he had a turbo upgrade this car with x drive would be ripping low 11's all day.
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There's no way you'll hit 116.5mph in 11.8s on just a jb4 and dp. No idea where you got that info but it's simply not true. Fastest stock turbo 235 I know of is fbo jb4 with meth and his best was 12.3s.
The info he is referring to is contained on this board (search button) and it is true.
There is a way and I'm doing it. As previously stated if the car had a stage 1 turbo it would show up in my logs that have been posted on N54tech. It doesn't. There is one addition to my mod list, the car has an intercooler on it (helps keep the car cool during road racing).

JibHonk ran an 11.952 @ 115.19. 1.8x 60'. My 60's are in the 1.6's. I would say it seems very reasonable that I ran 11.8's. As a side note his previous best was 12.25 @ 115 2.0 60'. The difference, he puts slicks on (traction).

Yet your theory is that in the middle of 2014 someone got a hold of a stage 1 turbo (not sure if they were available at that point), put it on a brand new 2015 xdrive and then sold it 3 months later (oh, and they didn't bother upgrading the stock exhaust). And this is more feasible to you?

The reason I post my times is to grow the 2-series community and knowledge. I have been to the drag strip several times, road racing on a few different tracks, posted videos of these experiences and posted on this board with nothing to hide. I get that you don't believe my times, you made your point. As your responses add no value to my threads and take it down an unintended path I'd ask that you refrain from posting in them.

Out of curiosity, have you taken your car to a track yet? My Casper's concoction is still for sale if you need some
Woah I didn't mean to attack or insult you, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Personally I have spent a while searching and the only reports of people in the 11s I found were on slicks or upgraded turbos. My turbo theory was just an attempt to explain a result which to me seemed out of the norm. I apologize if I came across as being negative!

And to answer your question, yes I have tracked my car and always appreciate people taking the time to post their results.

Anyway, congrats on the awesome results!!!
It's not the 1st time someone has tried to question, attack, or discredit him. He has a plethora of evidence he's kindly shared with us and I thank him because it helps out this community.

So I'm sure he's tired of members trying to badger him to death about fake times...

You do realize M235's run 12.8 bone stock off the showroom right? Jb4 map2 and intake they run consistent low 12's....

casper83 has x drive cutting 60ft down here is key and his are killer 1.6 hence the 11.8's with a very consistent 115-116mph...what's so hard to believe?

And in 2012 burger put a 335i in the 11's with jb4 FBO +meth.

Don't need turbo upgrade to hit 11's and if he had a turbo upgrade this car with x drive would be ripping low 11's all day.
It seems you misread my posts. I never claimed you need a turbo upgrade to break into the 11s. All I said was I have personally not seen any cases, other than casper, of someone with only dp and jb4, without turbo upgrade, meth or drag radials under 12s.
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It seems you misread my posts. I never claimed you need a turbo upgrade to break into the 11s. All I said was I have personally not seen any cases, other than casper, of someone with only dp and jb4, without turbo upgrade, meth or drag radials under 12s.
Well it's a 3590lb car with x drive cutting a 1.6 60ft time. It's not that hard to believe especially with consistent time slips. Elevation will play a role a well prepped track as well. Every low 12's FBO RWD 235i/335/435 I've seen are trapping 114-115mph. With all that being said again the 1.6 60ft is a huge key in his 1/4 times. It it were a RWD car on street tire you may have to raise an eyebrow or two..


EDIT: and FWIW I've seen pure turbo cars barely scratching into 11's and hanging in the 12 flat second range as if they had an anchor tied to them. You talk about a bigger turbo especially stage 2 with more lag it's making it a top end car. Especially seeing how they wipe the floor on roll races with 150k exotics. Just adding another angle or perspective of you have it when pointing out 1/4 mile times.

And I didn't misread your post, you clearly put its not true and that the fastest FBO 235 with meth was 12.3 1/4, well now you know there's a faster car and it's hitting 11.8. And actually I think his new best is 11.6 there is a video of it floating around hit the search button.
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