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05-26-2016, 10:21 AM | #24 |
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I find the suspension much more reasonable after having owned a m3. The stiffness is great when you are in the mood but it gets old quick especially when the roads are uneven and bumpy. My back definitely appreciates the forgiving suspension on the 235
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05-26-2016, 10:26 AM | #25 |
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My first initial thought of the m235i was that it was a bit to floaty on the road. But after about a week with the car I have adapted to it and although it is still a bit to floaty, it makes for an awesome daily driver. With the few off ramps I have had a little bit of fun on, even with this stock suspension setup, I feel more comfortable in this car than I did in my lowered WRX. And im on run flats too.
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05-26-2016, 10:27 AM | #26 |
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^^^^agree that adding stiffer sways should be accompanied w/stiffer side wall tires. The swaybars + extreme performance tires (stiffer side walls) and ideally a wider wheel/tire combo will improve cornering with marginal reduction in overall ride quality. I've found this approach works well for an improved DD setup. If the driving is more aggressive the springs might be needed. In general the order of effect for suspension/handling in descending order is: swaybar size/setting, springs then damper setting. Since we can only change the first 2 and retain the adaptive suspension, you're limited ....adding the stiffer side walls/wider wheels will also help. Boils down to $ vs desired handling/ride quality tradeoffs.
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05-26-2016, 10:34 AM | #28 |
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A bit ridiculous that Dinan cant crack BMW code in nearly 2 years now to make Shockware for M cars. What the hell did BMW do that makes it so hard.....I spoke to Dinan and unfortunately its almost a dead end project now....
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05-26-2016, 10:35 AM | #29 |
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One other contributing factor to body roll, at least in automatic cars is that the car in sport or sport+ tend to downshift too late when entering a corner....even in most aggressive chassis/drive train settings. If you're getting corner entry roll, using the paddles to downshift into a gear that puts you in the 3500 rpm or higher rpm range before entering the corner will "set " the front tires and reduce roll.
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05-26-2016, 11:21 AM | #30 | |
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I would imagine the Dinan springs will definitely help this situation, I am just debating whether to keep the car or not when my lease is up. So probably wont mod anything until I make that decision.
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05-26-2016, 03:21 PM | #32 |
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I actually find the stock suspension very compliant, although the ride height isn't exactly 'ideal' for me. I have put the car in many situations that would typically make most OE suspensions very upset, and it just eats it up. Almost a bit scared to loose that extra travel when I install my springs. I have a set of Dinan springs to go in, hoping to have a nice ride height along with a sportier "comfort" mode, and beast mode in sport+.
As is, in stock form the suspension settings are instantly noticeable through my back/neck/hands as the car gets much more "rigid" and direct, in feel.
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06-17-2016, 09:20 PM | #34 |
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After briefly owning an E90 M3, the handling in the 235 leaves a little bit to be desired. Definitely not in the same league as the an M car. It feels a little more floaty and less confident pushing in the corners. I would definitely like the M setup more, but the 235 is great for what it is.
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06-18-2016, 01:16 AM | #35 |
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The floatiness is one of the things that turned me off the M235i and made me order an M2. My daily drive for the last 14 years is a 330d touring on which I specified sports suspension when I bought it. That car has tighter handling than the M235i so I was horrified when I tested the latter. After 10 minutes I'd made the decision not to order one. Admittedly I've always been a hard suspension junkie so perhaps it's just me.
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06-18-2016, 09:13 AM | #37 |
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I guess switching to M2 suspension KW V3 is doable, but at the same time I do like the electronic one in 235i. I use Sport everywhere and switch to Comfort on bad roads.
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06-18-2016, 07:01 PM | #38 |
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Just picked mine up the other day and yes I would agree it is a bit floaty but as many have pointed out its a good compromise if you want a daily driver
After having RS 250 though everything feels soft!! |
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06-20-2016, 09:58 PM | #40 | |
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The 235 tosses really well into the corners once you get used to the adaptive steering and has power to back it up and eventually make you smile. I'm also just happy to have some of the "M" bits incorporated to make it that much more fun.. Couldn't agree with you more.. |
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06-21-2016, 09:50 AM | #41 |
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I also felt mine was slightly more floaty than I like, but still was quite good and more so when I got used to it. The Dinan springs and bumpstop set up took care of that for me.
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06-21-2016, 10:27 AM | #42 |
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in comfort it's a bit bouncy but in sport mode with 19's I find it quite stiff. The adjustability is one of the best features!
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06-21-2016, 01:16 PM | #43 |
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I have heard the dinan springs + bumps stops help a lot with this. Just sad they haven't cracked the M performance shock software.
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