[mattu]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

If the M2 came with lots of cfrp and went on a serious diet, the N55 over the nose would make it hard to keep the 50/50 weight ratio. I would think a 4 cylinder would be ideal for a balanced chassis.

Agreed. I hope lightest weight and balance are the #1 priority. A 4-cylinder version of the S55 would be my choice.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by SanquintinB

I just cant see an M2 with a 4-cylinder. Considering the fact that the 235i has a 6-cylinder.

Well that's really... um... Amazing! ..... since that's what happened with the E30 M3 vs the E30 325is back in the mid 1980s......


See #4 and #1 here..

http://www.roadandtrack.com/features...dels-4#slide-4
http://www.roadandtrack.com/features...dels-4#slide-7

[ynguldyn]

Just to clarify and put all your dreams to bed: my post was not a rumor.

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Just to clarify and put all your dreams to bed: my post was not a rumor.

Which post are you referring to?

[BMWJS]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Just to clarify and put all your dreams to bed: my post was not a rumor.

Any chance of the upgraded N55 turning into an S55?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Haywood

Which post are you referring to?

The one linked to in the first post.

[nachob]

I really would want the E90 M3 style normally aspirated V8 and the car weighing less than 2900 lbs.

I would settle for the F80 M3s motor in a 3300 lb M2.

[ska///235i]

I dont see how bmw can pull of a 3200 pounder...I'll guess 3400 lbs and thats with a CF roof

[kyleb350]

I'd want a detuned S55. I expect a revised N55.

[Delnari]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

I dont see how bmw can pull of a 3200 pounder...I'll guess 3400 lbs and thats with a CF roof

Recaro racing seats instead of the luxury electrics would be good for nearly 100 lbs. Take out some of the bloated luxury items and 3200 lbs should be easy to obtain. If they decided to do the turbo 4 cylinder they could even get under 3000 lbs.

[ticamihai2003]

Anyone drove or has seen the latest Mini GP reviews? I know it's a totally different car but make it a 300+ hp engine 4 cylinder and rear wheel drive with 1250 kg weight and you end up with a car that deserves to be worshiped . M235i in my opinion is not as fun and rewarding to drive as the GP, mostly because of its weight.

[IEDEI]

I don't understand this discussion.

the N55 M2 is coming. No need to speculate any further! get over it!

[BMWJS]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

I don't understand this discussion.

the N55 M2 is coming. No need to speculate any further! get over it!

I'm confident that the M2 is coming with a 6 cylinder and likely the N55 but I'm seeing numerous references to the S55 being tuned for it also. Either way, I'm in. I already have a deposit for the first available build slot with my dealer in case it turns out to be a limited production run.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by BMWJS

I'm confident that the M2 is coming with a 6 cylinder and likely the N55 but I'm seeing numerous references to the S55 being tuned for it also. Either way, I'm in. I already have a deposit for the first available build slot with my dealer in case it turns out to be a limited production run.

those magazines talking about the S55 are clueless. the member ynguldyn put up the actual engine in testing according to BMW documents and it is indeed an N55. I don't think his post is really a rumour but more of a factual account of what is registered for company testing so we can definitely go with it!

I am thinking about putting a deposit down in the next month or two as well.....but only if this is released as a 2016. If it comes out as a 2017 it would suck!

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by ecaedus

i actually want to see a Turbo inline 4 around 370 hp in the m2. Every other competitor has released or is planning to release a powerful 4 pot. Downsizing is the future, BMW will have to have a powerful 4 Pot anyways, better to make a statement by releasing one with the m2

I agree, with the distinct possibility of VW putting the Golf R400 into production with a 395hp 2.0L 4 cyl, I think BMW will feel the need to prove they can do a 'four' that is better than their rivals.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by GeeRam

I agree, with the distinct possibility of VW putting the Golf R400 into production with a 395hp 2.0L 4 cyl, I think BMW will feel the need to prove they can do a 'four' that is better than their rivals.

the ONLY reason Audi/VW are putting together these high powered 4s are because Audi poached the Mercedes engine designer/engineer last year.....yeah the same guy who made the CLA45 AMG engine. It's not a competition at this point...but basically the same guy who headed the CLA45 engine design is now doing it for Audi/VW!

it's kind of a shame because i prefer Audi's 5 pots.

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

the ONLY reason Audi/VW are putting together these high powered 4s are because Audi poached the Mercedes engine designer/engineer last year.....yeah the same guy who made the CLA45 AMG engine. It's not a competition at this point...but basically the same guy who headed the CLA45 engine design is now doing it for Audi/VW!

it's kind of a shame because i prefer Audi's 5 pots.

So do I, historically, traditional Audi = 5 cyl in the same way that traditional BMW = inline 6 cyl.


However, I thought the 4 cyl AMG engine design came out of Merc's 4 cyl F1 engine that was then scrapped when they revised the new engine rules in favour of V6's.......???

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by GeeRam

So do I, historically, traditional Audi = 5 cyl in the same way that traditional BMW = inline 6 cyl.


However, I thought the 4 cyl AMG engine design came out of Merc's 4 cyl F1 engine that was then scrapped when they revised the new engine rules in favour of V6's.......???

Actually as far as i know---the AMG 4-cylinder is just a very heavily boosted version of the standard MB 4-cylinder which is 1.6L and 2.0L in the rest of their CLA lineup and B-Class cars. The amount of boost it has is very high though....higher than i've seen in other 4-cylinder turbos.

[ticamihai2003]

Same technology as the new M3 M4 engine but with 4 cylinders

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by Pete_vB

V6 would work, chop two cylinders off of this:

The 4.6L, 608 hp motor from the 918. The best part? It weighs 130 lbs less than an N55 before you chop two cylinders off... Call it 3.4 liters, 450 hp, and 180 lbs saved off the nose- you can keep the torque.
Oh wait, that's right, the guy who knew how to make normally aspirated motors left BMW for Stuttgart. Another budget turbocharged brick it is, then...

Mezger. Come back after your lump has won Le Mans 14 times and we can discuss.

This would be great. Also, it is doubtful OP's NA 3.6 inline 6 would even fit into an M2 or even M3/4 for that matter.

[Transfer]

I don't care if its 4, 6, or 10 cylinders as long as it's about 200 lbs lighter than M4, has at least 360 HP, and revs to 8500. But I know that probably won't happen.

Multiport injection would be a huge plus as well but I'm guessing they wouldn't bother with the R&D for that. Lazy ass cheapskate sons a bitches.

[DUI Elite]

Originally Posted by SanquintinB

I just cant see an M2 with a 4-cylinder. Considering the fact that the 235i has a 6-cylinder.

I don't think that really means anything.

E30 325i was a 6-cyl but the E30 M3 was a 4-cyl..

I would like to see a good blend of lightweight but solid power in the M2. They can totally redeem the value of M to BMW folks if they get this right.