[cooolone2]

Again, won't matter once the SCOTUS rules on the Chevron Case and overturns it... All acronym agencies will be reeled in and these ridiculous rules and edicts will be a thing of the past, let alone arbitrary fines and seizures!

[chris719]

Originally Posted by cooolone2

Again, won't matter once the SCOTUS rules on the Chevron Case and overturns it... All acronym agencies will be reeled in and these ridiculous rules and edicts will be a thing of the past, let alone arbitrary fines and seizures!

Yeah it'll be great when DuPont, Chemours, 3M, etc. can dump more chemicals in your bodies of water without fear of consequences.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

And what agenda is that specifically?

The one where you ride a bike or walk. The Greens don't give two shits about the poor or anyone else in the way. You'll do what you're permitted to do and be thankful for it. Just listen to what they say, they're not shy about what they want.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

The one where you ride a bike or walk. The Greens don't give two shits about the poor or anyone else in the way. You'll do what you're permitted to do and be thankful for it. Just listen to what they say, they're not shy about what they want.

Why would they want you to ride a bike or walk?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by cooolone2

Again, won't matter once the SCOTUS rules on the Chevron Case and overturns it... All acronym agencies will be reeled in and these ridiculous rules and edicts will be a thing of the past, let alone arbitrary fines and seizures!

Ahem.

Didn't Jortho just give their student loan ruling the finger?

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

The one where you ride a bike or walk. The Greens don't give two shits about the poor or anyone else in the way. You'll do what you're permitted to do and be thankful for it. Just listen to what they say, they're not shy about what they want.

But shoes and bicycle tires release microplastics when they wear. We can't have that.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

And what agenda is that specifically?

Bro, you're abrasive AND you're wrong.

[LouK]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

I was amazed when I joined here and saw open posting about no cats and tuning. Those topics have been off limits in the online Mustang world for years. The EPA's view is that touching any part connected to the motor is illegal tampering of emissions device. Real world talking to localish shop owners is that as long as you leave the cats and PCV on you're a low priority. Those shop owners also report what are clearly EPA fishing calls asking if you will remove cats or tune a car that they gutted the cats on. The local diesel shops won't touch tampering with a 10 foot pole, the Feds don't play one bit on that.

Not sure what forums you frequent but Mustang6G had all kinds of modding talk including catless. Realistically the federal govt coming after an individual car isn't worth the time. They go after the shops producing the mods which is evident in the OP.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Bro, you're abrasive AND you're wrong.

I'm not your bro. This board doesn't need conspiratorial bullshit threads.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

I'm not your bro. This board doesn't need conspiratorial bullshit threads.

If you think the Green Insanity is a conspiracy theory, you're not paying attention.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by LouK

Not sure what forums you frequent but Mustang6G had all kinds of modding talk including catless. Realistically the federal govt coming after an individual car isn't worth the time. They go after the shops producing the mods which is evident in the OP.

If the shops and tuning devices are gone, how many realistically can tune and mod a car? Answer: not enough to make parts for. The Feds have made clear they don't give a hoot and hollar about the auto performance aftermarket.

They went after one muffler company and Mustang catless mid-pipes went poof from every manufacturer.

[LouK]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

If the shops and tuning devices are gone, how many realistically can tune and mod a car? Answer: not enough to make parts for. The Feds have made clear they don't give a hoot and hollar about the auto performance aftermarket.

They went after one muffler company and Mustang catless mid-pipes went poof from every manufacturer.

Your response reads like you disagree but everything you said agrees 😂

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

I'm not your bro. This board doesn't need conspiratorial bullshit threads.

The term conspiracy theory was created by the CIA. Glad to see you can think for* yourself.

How indoctrinated do you have to be to get upset over things?

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by LouK

Your response reads like you disagree but everything you said agrees 😂

They're making examples at all levels of motorsports.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

The term conspiracy theory was created by the CIA. Glad to see you can think got yourself.

How indoctrinated do you have to be to get upset over things?

What makes you think I'm indoctrinated?

It's amazing how a group of people resort to conspiracies (an argument based on faith) because they lack the ability to offer a valid counter point using reason, logic, and facts.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

What makes you think I'm indoctrinated?

It's amazing how a group of people resort to conspiracies (an argument based on faith) because they lack the ability to offer a valid counter point using reason, logic, and facts.

Is that why you’re here frothing at the mouth? Are all conspiracies false?

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

What makes you think I'm indoctrinated?

It's amazing how a group of people resort to conspiracies (an argument based on faith) because they lack the ability to offer a valid counter point using reason, logic, and facts.

You actually think reason, logic or facts have driven any auto emissions regulation for the last 20 years?!? The stupendous cost to consumers in added vehicle cost and maintenance chasing a fraction of a percent from already achieved reductions in emissions! The total upheaval in vehicle manufacture and power generation chasing an unachievable goal and we're paying for it! Wake up!

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Is that why you’re here frothing at the mouth? Are all conspiracies false?

Lol...not even close to frothing. Just calling bullshit .

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

You actually think reason, logic or facts have driven any auto emissions regulation for the last 20 years?!? The stupendous cost to consumers in added vehicle cost and maintenance chasing a fraction of a percent from already achieved reductions in emissions! The total upheaval in vehicle manufacture and power generation chasing an unachievable goal and we're paying for it! Wake up!

Prove otherwise.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Prove otherwise.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Sad part is, to many like you, which is why your ability to buy the new car you want, instead of mandated, will disappear.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Sad part is, to many like you, which is why your ability to buy the new car you want, instead of mandated, will disappear.

It's not worth engaging with someone like him. Everything is a conspiracy, and he's a real free thinker by just accepting what he's told.

Look how angry he is that someone would dare question the government and the "science"

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

It's not worth engaging with someone like him. Everything is a conspiracy, and he's a real free thinker by just accepting what he's told.

Look how angry he is that someone would dare question the government and the "science"

They think the adult in the room will step in and fix things. Not gonna happen. The only thing that will change this is blackouts and political pain. Some of the utility commissions are starting to pipe up but may be too late and a dollar short.