[fbsm]

Originally Posted by redontheline

I'm a 20-something, competent to advanced tech user who grew up playing around with GUI's and I think the Spotify menus and the iDrive menu navigation and structure in general are not the most intuitive. I'm stubborn and don't want to see if it can be improved by reading the manual; in my opinion a good design should not require that.

I have to agree with you on idrive.....it leaves a LOT to be desired and could be a lot simpler and more intuitive

[stealthwang]

as a software engineer iDrive was the most intuitive system I saw by far and was a major factor in me buying BMW

different strokes

[p912guy]

iDrive on my 2016 BMW makes MMI on my wife's 2016 Audi Q5 look like tech from 10 years ago. The more time I spend with it the more I like it.

[Luftwaffe1O1]

I think iDrive is pretty intuitive. It takes a bit of getting used to, but once you just know where things are, its a great system.

The thing that drives me crazy is creaks and rattles inside of my car. I have been chasing them for like 2 years now. I get rid of old ones, and new ones pop up.

-There is a rattle above my head when driving, looks to be somewhere where the window meets the weather stripping, but could be also inside of headliner above my head.
-Occasional rattle in passenger doorpanel, near the door pull/speaker.
-I HAD a different rattle in passenger door panel. That was fixed.
-Rattle in rear deck lid. (This was fixed, took a while to get it properly reproduced at dealer).
-Current creaking in rear drivers side inside panel. Whenever the rear suspension is loaded/unloaded it creaks inside the cabin. Not sure if it makes noise outside or not though.
-The armrest on drivers door is making creaking noises.

This stuff has been driving me nuts.

[Rayscott]

I love I drive, very intuitive and easy to learn. Got it in my 2 bimmers.

[Troppo]

The lack of backlighting on the speedo/tacho when in "daylight" mode - i.e. DRLs on.

Fine when the main beams are on - red backlighting...but why not just leave it on all the time?

[selmeralto]

Originally Posted by Troppo

The lack of backlighting on the speedo/tacho when in "daylight" mode - i.e. DRLs on.

Fine when the main beams are on - red backlighting...but why not just leave it on all the time?

Second that.

[Cumberlandjames]

Here in Canada where we have mandatory daytime running lights we see countless cars driving around at night without their lights on because many manufacturers, like the Japanese, have illuminated dash lights. You constantly see these boneheads driving along with no lights on thinking because their dash is lit the lights are on. Luckily mine has auto light so not ever an issue but it presents a safety issue when you overtake cars with no taillights.

[Beartato]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

That 'who' would be me. It hits my leg in just the right spot. I'm 6-3, so it may be a function of the pad's position being determined by long Teutonic legs ... but it also could be a function of the driving position you prefer compared to the one I prefer ...

Ditto, I'm 6'3" as well and that pad is sweet.

[kern417]

Originally Posted by Cumberlandjames

Here in Canada where we have mandatory daytime running lights we see countless cars driving around at night without their lights on because many manufacturers, like the Japanese, have illuminated dash lights. You constantly see these boneheads driving along with no lights on thinking because their dash is lit the lights are on. Luckily mine has auto light so not ever an issue but it presents a safety issue when you overtake cars with no taillights.

yep. a lot of people like me have been accustomed to turning on the lights because we can't see anything on the dash, so when it's always backlit and you see the street lit, you forget to turn it on. it would probably help if they added an indicator to tell you if your headlights are on but idk if they want to add additional clutter to the cluster.

[DF]

Originally Posted by Cumberlandjames

Here in Canada where we have mandatory daytime running lights we see countless cars driving around at night without their lights on because many manufacturers, like the Japanese, have illuminated dash lights. You constantly see these boneheads driving along with no lights on thinking because their dash is lit the lights are on. Luckily mine has auto light so not ever an issue but it presents a safety issue when you overtake cars with no taillights.

You see it here all the time. Especially with Honda and Lexus drivers. It's gotten worse since drl's went led. They think the lights are on because they are bright and the gauges are backlit.

[Pigeon]

My minor grievances with an otherwise splendid car:

- iDrive navigation doesn't always tell me what side of the road a destination is on. Not sure why it only does this occasionally, but I hate it.
- Steering wheel blocks auto-wipers status light so I have to crane my neck to see if it's on. I should just be able to see it in my peripheral vision, why doesn't it get a light on the dash?
- The speed limit indicator is wrong probably 5% of the time and that's enough for me to lose trust in it.
- The car should unlock when I put it in park, I dislike the double handle pull.
- They really should let you set a default driving mode, doesn't make sense why they don't.
- The 3-blinks-and-off is far too quick for a lane change and that's the most blinks they give ya! Really only useful for a token blink mid-merge that doesn't help anyone.

[DF]

Originally Posted by Pigeon

My minor grievances with an otherwise splendid car:

- iDrive navigation doesn't always tell me what side of the road a destination is on. Not sure why it only does this occasionally, but I hate it.
- Steering wheel blocks auto-wipers status light so I have to crane my neck to see if it's on. I should just be able to see it in my peripheral vision, why doesn't it get a light on the dash?
- The speed limit indicator is wrong probably 5% of the time and that's enough for me to lose trust in it.
- The car should unlock when I put it in park, I dislike the double handle pull.
- They really should let you set a default driving mode, doesn't make sense why they don't.
- The 3-blinks-and-off is far too quick for a lane change and that's the most blinks they give ya! Really only useful for a token blink mid-merge that doesn't help anyone.

The unlocking and blinks can be coded. I have found the speedo to be accurate. You can get it coded to digital as well

[hawkxo]

Overall very happy with my M235i

I just dislike how the radio turns off after 8min of the car being shut off. I sometimes do work in my car and like having tunes without having to put the car in AC mode or starting it up

My E92 stayed on as long as the key was in. I can't find a coding option for this. Does anyone know if its possible to extend that time?

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by hawkxo

Overall very happy with my M235i

I just dislike how the radio turns off after 8min of the car being shut off. I sometimes do work in my car and like having tunes without having to put the car in AC mode or starting it up

My E92 stayed on as long as the key was in. I can't find a coding option for this. Does anyone know if its possible to extend that time?

Yes. Also, is there a way to listen to the hifi system (Multimedia mode) without the angel eyes or any other lights being on? There must be a way... I think some coding plus the right headlight switch mode should be able to do it.

[WolfGTI]

The only thing I've fund that really bothers me is the control on the center vent that changes the temp of the air. I find it annoying to have to change it from warm to cold even though the HVAC is automatic.

[B_Rice]

Originally Posted by WolfGTI

The only thing I've fund that really bothers me is the control on the center vent that changes the temp of the air. I find it annoying to have to change it from warm to cold even though the HVAC is automatic.

Why would you change it out of the center where it's neutral?

[WolfGTI]

I've found that it is still warmer if needed and moved to the red or cooler if blue than in the neutral - noticeably.

For example - with the knob in the neutral position, the air coming in was cold, I had the temp in the car set to 70 and it was 43 degrees outside, the car was not warm inside, once I moved the knob to the red position the warm air started coming through the vents.

[cohenfive]

I've had my car for a couple of months now, and a couple thousand miles. I was at our local golf course yesterday and a guy in a mint 1990 white 3 series came over and commented that my car is 'special'...which I appreciated hearing.

So, I have two minor nits with the car so far...one are the door handles. Really dumb design imo. Way too big, and positioned too far forward so it is hard to control opening the door. Also a lot of road noise from the pss tires, can be really loud on some roads. I am going to be getting new tires in the next couple of months, hopefully the new conti extreme contact sports are quieter...

Otherwise the car is a lot of fun to own and drive.

[Viffermike]

Originally Posted by cohenfive

Also a lot of road noise from the pss tires, can be really loud on some roads. I am going to be getting new tires in the next couple of months, hopefully the new conti extreme contact sports are quieter...

Before you ditch what are, by wide consensus, the best all-around summer performance tires made anywhere, take a look at this thread, then determine whether or not your car has them. If not, order them and try that first. They make a significant difference with road noise in general.

[BM235iW]

I live at the moment in Los Angeles, I ordered the car with an automatic not thinking I was going to retire early. Now retired I'm sorry I didn't order the manual. :

[crabu2]

Originally Posted by fbsm

I have to agree with you on idrive.....it leaves a LOT to be desired and could be a lot simpler and more intuitive

Let me 1st say I've never used iDrive until I went car shopping. After I ordered, I saw many comments like yours so I asked my salesman if I could just sit in a BMW and to get familiar with iDrive 5.

I must say, other than it not having a touch screen, I saw no issues with it. It was so easy to use, I think I was out of the car within 5 mins saying, I'm good with it.

I don't know if it's because I wasn't using a touch screen, but inputs were nice and quick, unlike other touch screen setups I've used.