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      08-01-2017, 09:23 AM   #67
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OK, I can't be silent any longer ...

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You guys are harsh. This does not look any deeper than any one of hundreds of fords that are on public roads in many countries.
We are not harsh. We are being realistic with a 2Addicts member who has consistently demonstrated a lack of knowledge about cars in general, a lack of deference to the knowledge we all have about 2 Series BMWs, and a near-total lack of effort to use this forum properly. He initially reached out at the scene of the issue for answers, then becomes argumentative and defensive with us.

I'm sorry, but karma is a frakking bitch, ain't it?

Look at the pic of that air intake. Look at how deep the water is behind where the car ultimately stalled out. Read what bryan_f22 has personally dealt with in a very similar car. Realize how low critical components of our engines sit, particularly the intercooler. The OP has absolutely no business even trying to get through that water -- and if he knew anything about his own vehicle, he'd have known this.

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Personally I'm watching this thread with great concern because the difference between a puddle and flood can sometime be a matter of minutes. I don't want my car stopping simply because of some rain ... That water level should NEVER stop a modern car and indicates something majorly wrong to me.
The first sentence is true, but that means one should ultimately be even more cautious in our vehicles when it comes to standing water. This is not just 'some rain'. This is localized flooding, in a city (Montreal) KNOWN for this for centuries. (It's built on an island in the middle of the highest-volume river in the damn continent, for crying out loud!)

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Of course you don't go LOOKING for these kind of driving conditions but the car should NOT have fucking stopped. Stressing the poor guy out like that is not coming across as particularly cool. Although the shark pic was hilarious
Yes it should have. Our cars are performance cars known to not do very well going through high water. This has been common knowledge among those who know BMWs for at least 15 years.

No offense, but the guy is stressing himself out because he's demonstrably and consistently clueless. Again: karma.

OP: All I can (and will) tell you is to let the dealer assess the car and accept whatever fate comes your way. I'll leave it at that.
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      08-01-2017, 09:26 AM   #68
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I would agree - that truck is in pretty deep water, if you came through that, then......
Sorry man, I would hate that to happen to me
Hopefully everything will be fixed. Good Luck!
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      08-01-2017, 09:46 AM   #69
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I've seen river crossings with less water than what OP went through
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      08-01-2017, 09:50 AM   #70
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Ok, I'll bite. How does an intercooler suck in water?
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Something just doesn't add up here. OP was able to provide a photo of his intake (lower box) and point out that there was water in it. So he must know SOMETHING about his car. Yet still doesn't seem to understand driving through deep water is unwise. The logic is not strong with this one.
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      08-01-2017, 09:53 AM   #72
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My money is on he was driving and it wasn't that deep but a car or truck went by with a bow wave that lapped over his front end just enough to get some water at intake level.
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      08-01-2017, 10:25 AM   #73
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If you can't see how deep the water is, it's too deep to drive through.
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      08-01-2017, 10:27 AM   #74
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If you can't see how deep the water is, it's too deep to drive through.
Smart man...
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      08-01-2017, 10:35 AM   #75
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If you can't see how deep the water is, it's too deep to drive through.
Words to live by.

You can also apply this logic to other aspects of your life.
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      08-01-2017, 10:56 AM   #76
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Like if u look at the intake there is not much water inside of it....
thats the only sign of relief i can have so far...
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      08-01-2017, 11:01 AM   #77
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Lots of negativity towards the OP, not a fan of that. He seems pretty up front regarding the situation and may not have as much knowledge as others on here. Not a fun ordeal to go through. Unfortunately it's one of those live and learn scenarios.

Here in Detroit metro we had a day in 2014 where most roads looked like that. I had four friends had the same thing happen on that day. All were hydro-lock and subsequent insurance totals. 2 BMWs and 2 Chryslers. I lucked out and my car (a Camaro SS with a CAI out of all things) made it home that day, but there were many close calls driving home from work. Sometimes finding high ground to avoid deep water is a more challenging task than you think when the streets are rapidly filling up with water and there is traffic gridlock all around you.
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      08-01-2017, 11:13 AM   #78
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i been reading stuff on internet non stop about it...
like from what i read this is totaled 100% engine is finished !!
if its hydrolock do they repair it?

Didn't you see my prior post?

I've hydrolocked my Jeep engine many times... Assuming nothing got bent, you would normally just pull your plugs and crank the motor to get the water out. Once it's out, you can reinsert the plugs and the car should start. You do need to change the oil ASAP.

The reason a hydrolocked motor won't start is because the water won't compress... Get the water out ASAP! It can cause rust, if you let it sit in there.
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      08-01-2017, 11:28 AM   #79
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Didn't you see my prior post?

I've hydrolocked my Jeep engine many times... Assuming nothing got bent, you would normally just pull your plugs and crank the motor to get the water out. Once it's out, you can reinsert the plugs and the car should start. You do need to change the oil ASAP.

The reason a hydrolocked motor won't start is because the water won't compress... Get the water out ASAP! It can cause rust, if you let it sit in there.
Thanks for the info
the dealer said they cant do anything today it will be tommorow....hope it won't rust...
assuming to engine damage was done...could there be repercussion cause of the water damage later on?
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Thanks for the info
the dealer said they cant do anything today it will be tommorow....hope it won't rust...
assuming to engine damage was done...could there be repercussion cause of the water damage later on?
Look, don't freak out until there's something to freak out about.

Rust isn't going to be factor here because any surface rust that may build up in the motor will be sweep by the piston rings and burned off once the motor fires. The tech will also immediately change the oil. Again, rust is a none issue.

The motor either hydrolocks or it doesn't. If it's hydrolock, then a connecting rod usually bends. If it's not hydrolocked, then no major engine damage has occurred. Same with electrical systems for the most part. It's either broken or it's not. Replace the parts and carry on with life. My guess is some electrical component got wet and shorted something thus making the motor stall and hard to restart. A hydrolocked motor will usually not turn over until the water is out. Once you restart (if you can), it will make a hell of a racket with the bent rod in there and will likely freeze up after a minute or two.

Insurance should cover all repairs. Their jaw will likely hit the floor if the motor needs to be replaced.
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it was like full
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I mean Like the water
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like im scared
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like the water
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like from what i read
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like the car was splashed
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Like if u look
LIKE....you know who's having a worse day? LIKE...your elementary school English teacher! And yet, here I am reading this stuff.....
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Here is a picture
it seem like the water was not high at all but the water splashed on the engine so it shut it off instantaneously....
the water was a little higher when it happended
Just looking at the water level in relationship to the tires, the water doesn't appear to be that deep.

That being said, a wave from oncoming traffic or a dip in the road surface could change all that. I'd be critical of the OP's decision if the water was hub high on the wheels. Of course, he did mention the water was a bit higher prior to the photo being taken (operative word being "bit")

I for one would never suspect the car to quit doing this. So I am sympathetic to the OP and can rationalize his decision to try it since other traffic seemed to be able to handle it.

After reading this, I have been enlightened to a point where I will never try to drive through any standing water with my M240i. We have our fair share of it now with all the rain we've been getting. I never thought about it before, but will probably leave mine parked as our side street can have standing water.

The rain storms we have in SW Florida can be very heavy. Heavy to the point where gutters cannot take the water fast enough and rather deep water can extend well into the road way.

I'm not talking a side road, but main roads like Rt 41, where speeds can be up to 50 MPH (so even when reducing speed to compensate for the weather still has you moving w/ traffic @ 25-30 MPH) and hitting one of these areas at speed can nearly grab the wheel from you grip and throw a water wake to rival a slalom water skier.

This Bimmer must truly be a "bottom breather".
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LIKE....you know who's having a worse day? LIKE...your elementary school English teacher! And yet, here I am reading this stuff.....
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I have to laugh because I do the same as he does at times!
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I guess someone needs to offer a snorkel for these cars.
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LIKE....you know who's having a worse day? LIKE...your elementary school English teacher! And yet, here I am reading this stuff.....
My only disappointment is that I had to "appreciate" your post and I could not "like" it.
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Great thread, really enjoying this one.
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I am not even sure why he is using the word like so much. He isnt even from southern California. down here thats normal.

I wouldnt freak out too, as i said earlier, same thing happened in my VW and i was a complete idiot driving through some high level water cause i had a bottom scoop cold air intake. Not something i was proud of even at 18.

The engine ended up being fine though....
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Look, don't freak out until there's something to freak out about.

Rust isn't going to be factor here because any surface rust that may build up in the motor will be sweep by the piston rings and burned off once the motor fires. The tech will also immediately change the oil. Again, rust is a none issue.

The motor either hydrolocks or it doesn't. If it's hydrolock, then a connecting rod usually bends. If it's not hydrolocked, then no major engine damage has occurred. Same with electrical systems for the most part. It's either broken or it's not. Replace the parts and carry on with life. My guess is some electrical component got wet and shorted something thus making the motor stall and hard to restart. A hydrolocked motor will usually not turn over until the water is out. Once you restart (if you can), it will make a hell of a racket with the bent rod in there and will likely freeze up after a minute or two.

Insurance should cover all repairs. Their jaw will likely hit the floor if the motor needs to be replaced.
What u mean a hydrolock motor will not turn over until the water is out?
Like.my engine never turned on but did crank multiple times...is that what u mean?
They will check it tmr morning until then im super stress i cant even live....
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