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      09-10-2017, 03:44 PM   #1
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Hey guys so i have BM3 and am FBO WITHOUT a Jb4, and was looking into getting meth, which kits will/can work without a JB4? any and all advise is appreciated guys.
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Snow Performance Stg2 or Stg3 will work like a charm.

Snow Kit is used in the BMW M4 GTS
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When asked about pump longevity, Snow didn’t recommend any particular mixture of methanol percentage to avoid, noting that their pumps are also used in the BMW M4 GTS as factory equipment; which means they are of the highest quality possible and have passed OEM-level durability testing.
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Snow Performance Stg2 or Stg3 will work like a charm.
Thanks bro. But how does the controller work?
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Thanks bro. But how does the controller work?
I don't have any experience with them but just the bit i've read, they have their own controller. A friend of mine had Aquamist HFS4 but its more money. You can find out more info on their website or giving them a call perhaps.

If you go with Snow Meth STG2 or STG3 you should be all set (those come with progressive controller).

Are you trying to add Meth for cooling or power adder?
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Thanks bro. But how does the controller work?
I don't have any experience with them but just the bit i've read, they have their own controller. A friend of mine had Aquamist HFS4 but its more money. You can find out more info on their website or giving them a call perhaps.

If you go with Snow Meth STG2 or STG3 you should be all set (those come with progressive controller).

Are you trying to add Meth for cooling or power adder?
Bit of both haha. More so for cooling though
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Must you use a JB4 with meth?

Is there not a flash tune that will work?
Isn't the M4 GTS unit a Bosch product?
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Is there not a flash tune that will work?
Isn't the M4 GTS unit a Bosch product?
well thats my main question, i just mainly see meth kits made for a JB4. not as much for BM3 as far as i have seen.
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BMS sells their meth kit (Parts from different brands) with their own Integration with JB4 users.
The other brands like Aquamist, Snow Performance, AEM etc are standalone kits used outside of BMW for far longer than N55 has been around for ex lol.
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Damn meth heads. Stuff will ruin your future. ;p
What is drugs? Lmao
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well thats my main question, i just mainly see meth kits made for a JB4. not as much for BM3 as far as i have seen.
All the meth kits are universal in nature. The only thing that separates the BMS kit apart from the others is the flow/fail safe integration into the JB4. So it allows the user to adjust boost and when it sprays as well as tell the tune when methanol is spraying to go onto the desired map.

This sort of logic can still be achieved on other universal kits, you need to the appropriate hardware and set it up accordingly.

The hardware is virtually the same, Pump, tank lines, nozzle. Universal kits, primarily stage 1 kits, utilize a boost activated switch to turn on methanol at a desired PSI. This has been used for a quite a long time.

The only downside when not coupled with a failsafe/flow sensor is if methanol stops flowing (for whatever reason) there is nothing to tell the tune methanol has stopped.

Companies like Snow and AEM do offer optional universal failsafe/flow sensors which can be implemented into any tune. It just comes down to your preferred route and budget. A lot of people today still spray and pray but you need to make a conscious effort to datalog, watch and maintain your meth system without a failsafe.

If you have any more questions or want me to dive into anything deeper, let me know.
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well thats my main question, i just mainly see meth kits made for a JB4. not as much for BM3 as far as i have seen.
All the meth kits are universal in nature. The only thing that separates the BMS kit apart from the others is the flow/fail safe integration into the JB4. So it allows the user to adjust boost and when it sprays as well as tell the tune when methanol is spraying to go onto the desired map.

This sort of logic can still be achieved on other universal kits, you need to the appropriate hardware and set it up accordingly.

The hardware is virtually the same, Pump, tank lines, nozzle. Universal kits, primarily stage 1 kits, utilize a boost activated switch to turn on methanol at a desired PSI. This has been used for a quite a long time.

The only downside when not coupled with a failsafe/flow sensor is if methanol stops flowing (for whatever reason) there is nothing to tell the tune methanol has stopped.

Companies like Snow and AEM do offer optional universal failsafe/flow sensors which can be implemented into any tune. It just comes down to your preferred route and budget. A lot of people today still spray and pray but you need to make a conscious effort to datalog, watch and maintain your meth system without a failsafe.

If you have any more questions or want me to dive into anything deeper, let me know.
Thank you! This helped alot
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f22_shayan Did you ever get the meth set up on your car?
What about using the Port meth injection from the Fuel it kit..I believe they have a Controller that works with Flash Tunes as well.
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f22_shayan Did you ever get the meth set up on your car?
What about using the Port meth injection from the Fuel it kit..I believe they have a Controller that works with Flash Tunes as well.
No i never ended up getting it. I ended up getting more suspension stuff instead haha
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