[Nashvillain]

After 4 months or so of looking hard for the right M235, I finally am a member of the club! Flew from Nashville to New Jersey a couple days ago and bought a 2014 Estoril Blue MT with only 7,500 miles on it. Tech package, Premium package, and Light package. Harmon Kardon. Previous owner also put the M Performance carbon spoiler, front splitter, and pedals. Man, I love this car.

Only problem is, I think I set a new record for shortest amount of time owning a 235 before getting a speeding ticket. Driving back home yesterday through VA, I got a speeding ticket on I81. And the trouble is, the cop said I was going 82 (even though I had my cruise set on 79), which is 12 miles over the speed limit and thus a reckless driving ticket! UGH. I am going to go to my BMW dealer and see if they will calibrate my speedo to see if there was an error and that I can get it reduced to just a speeding ticket. Good grief.

But I'm still a happy man!

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Nashvillain

After 4 months or so of looking hard for the right M235, I finally am a member of the club! Flew from Nashville to New Jersey a couple days ago and bought a 2014 Estoril Blue MT with only 7,500 miles on it. Tech package, Premium package, and Light package. Harmon Kardon. Previous owner also put the M Performance carbon spoiler, front splitter, and pedals. Man, I love this car.

Only problem is, I think I set a new record for shortest amount of time owning a 235 before getting a speeding ticket. Driving back home yesterday through VA, I got a speeding ticket on I81. And the trouble is, the cop said I was going 82 (even though I had my cruise set on 79), which is 12 miles over the speed limit and thus a reckless driving ticket! UGH. I am going to go to my BMW dealer and see if they will calibrate my speedo to see if there was an error and that I can get it reduced to just a speeding ticket. Good grief.

But I'm still a happy man!

Oh man, sorry to hear that. You can definitely contest the ticket, there are attorneys that will guarantee to get it thrown out or they will give you a refund. If they used a radar gun, you can ask to see the calibration reports, if they did not comply, it will be thrown out, often they don't comply.

[Nashvillain]

Thanks! That's helpful info.

[Dylan86]

I had the same thing happen to me in WA last month. I had cruise set to 110km/h (68mph) and I got radar'd doing "76mph" in a 60 zone. I literally LOL'd in the officers face, in shock about his comment/reasoning for pulling me over. He was very polite and professional, though. He still gave me a minimum 5mph speeding ticket... Why not jam me with the 16mph over ? Maybe he was just nice, but something tells me his instrument was off, big time. Almost seemed as if they lack confidence in their own technology..

[Kolyan2k]

More people need to get on Waze. It works better then all radar detectors, at least here in MA....and its free

[XutvJet]

12mph is reckless driving? LOL. In Kansas you need to be doing 21mph+ to get that ticket.

Your speedometer is set by BMW to read 2-3mph higher than actual. So if you set the cruise at 79mph, then you're really only going 76-77mph assuming you're on stock size tires. As the tires get worn, the error becomes less. I've confirmed this 2-3mph matter with two GPS units.

You might want to see what your GPS says when you set the cruise and see if the GPS readings are at odds with the speedometer. Then argue to the judge that while you were speeding, you do not believe you were going 12mph over because the cruise was set, BMW builds in speedometer error, and you've confirmed the error with a GPS. They're not going to let you off, but chances are (if you're professional about this), they'll reduce your ticket to below a reckless driving citation. OR you could spend $500-700 and hire an attorney to likely argue the same point and other legal BS attorneys use to get repeat speeders off.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

I had the same thing happen to me in WA last month. I had cruise set to 110km/h (68mph) and I got radar'd doing "76mph" in a 60 zone. I literally LOL'd in the officers face, in shock about his comment/reasoning for pulling me over. He was very polite and professional, though. He still gave me a minimum 5mph speeding ticket... Why not jam me with the 16mph over ? Maybe he was just nice, but something tells me his instrument was off, big time. Almost seemed as if they lack confidence in their own technology..

It's a money making scam, at least in PA. 5 over is a $100 fine and no points - beyond that you get points so it's worth fighting. Not sure about you, but $100 and it never happened is a no brainer compared to wasting my time going to court, dealing with bullshit, etc. I'm sure they figured out no one contests the $100 and no points so they write those bc the collect the $ 99% of the time compared to average return on a $200 ticket that they collect 30% of the time.

[Rayscott]

Virginia is tough and radar detectors are illegal. Next time use waze.

[hoppy6698]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

12mph is reckless driving? LOL. In Kansas you need to be doing 21mph+ to get that ticket.

Yeah, VA has some of the most restrictive driving / speeding laws in the country. That said, to keep up with traffic here, I usually have to do 10 over the speed limit in the right hand lane! Its a cognitive dissonance the morons here cannot get over.

As my radar now sits on the shelf ...

[five3three]

Originally Posted by Nashvillain

After 4 months or so of looking hard for the right M235, I finally am a member of the club! Flew from Nashville to New Jersey a couple days ago and bought a 2014 Estoril Blue MT with only 7,500 miles on it. Tech package, Premium package, and Light package. Harmon Kardon. Previous owner also put the M Performance carbon spoiler, front splitter, and pedals. Man, I love this car.

Only problem is, I think I set a new record for shortest amount of time owning a 235 before getting a speeding ticket. Driving back home yesterday through VA, I got a speeding ticket on I81. And the trouble is, the cop said I was going 82 (even though I had my cruise set on 79), which is 12 miles over the speed limit and thus a reckless driving ticket! UGH. I am going to go to my BMW dealer and see if they will calibrate my speedo to see if there was an error and that I can get it reduced to just a speeding ticket. Good grief.

But I'm still a happy man!

Well, bad news is you are forced to go to court. But good news is that when you do it's doubtful it'll be a severe penalty as it is only 12 mph over.

Typically in VA, reckless is given when you are 20 mph over the speed limit and it becomes a little grey when the speed limit is higher (like 70 mph) and you get stopped at 82 which is supposed to be reckless too. Most of the time the cops in that case just give you a speeding ticket but since you were on 81 and likely passing through some rural areas, the VSP there can be total dicks.

The VA laws for reckless are kind of outdated and the 80 mph automatic reckless rule was established way before there were any 65 or 70 mph speed limits in VA.

For those suggesting Waze, it's a little worthless in VA when you're outside of the major city center areas which 81 mostly is.

[OpenAir]

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

More people need to get on Waze. It works better then all radar detectors, at least here in MA....and its free

+1 Lots of users here in MD!

[Nashvillain]

Talked to a VA lawyer today. Since I have a clean record he is confident he can get the charge dismissed if I do a day of driving class here in TN. Gonna cost me $700 for the lawyer but not nearly as much as the ticket and travel for day in court,etc. What a racket there in VA.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Sorry about that ... It should have been a regular speeding ticket either way

[MrBucket]

Did you buy that car from BMW of Tenafly? I'm 99% sure that you bought my old car when I upgraded to an M2.

Here they are together for the first and last time.

[MrBucket]

Also if that is my old car, you also have the M Performance Limited Slip Differential installed in it.

[MrBucket]

The crazy thing is you even sent me a PM to try and buy my car from me directly but I wasn't sure at the time that I'd go ahead with buying the M2.

Also another way to tell if its my car is if it has an Opticoat Pro sticker on the windshield just up by the BMW Roadside Assistance one, it was coated by Phil DetailersDomain. I picked it up with the plastic still on it and drove it right over there and he did all the prep on the car including the Opticoat Pro.

[MrBucket]

Here is the window sticker for my/your car with some of the VIN cut out, I can send you a full sized one in a PM.

[Nashvillain]

Yes!!! That's it! Thrilled to have bought a fellow forum members car. It's pristine! I can't stop grinning when I see it each day.

[MrBucket]

Here is a nice picture that I took of it in my driveway with it looking amazing shortly after I'd installed the splitter.



here is the full res one

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[MrBucket]

Here it was with some of its siblings in the driveway




Don't have the full primary color set anymore though with the M2 being Alpine White

[MrBucket]

Picked it up still all wrapped up and drove it straight over to the detailers to have the Opticoat Pro done on it.

[Dylan86]

What a coincidence, wow.