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      01-24-2018, 12:07 AM   #1
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Does the 18 M240i drives better than the 14-17?

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Wondering if its worth it to change my 15 m235i for an 18 M240... is it still very similar or does it drive much better as in suspension, steering and creature comforts?

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Hello guys

Wondering if its worth it to change my 15 m235i for an 18 M240... is it still very similar or does it drive much better as in suspension, steering and creature comforts?

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likely not enough of a difference for what a trade up will cost.

What's mileage and condition of your 2015?
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There were no changes in those systems. The real difference being that the B58 is heavier than the N55 thus a bit more weight bias to the front.
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Unless it has something you need that your current car doesn't ie xDrive or you want to switch from manual to automatic etc. def not worth the hit you'll take. Spend $2k to CPO yours and keep it. Depreciating assets are just that, no need to double down on the hit for so similar a car.
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I've been looking at quite a few 2'ers of late as I'm finally willing to replace my E46 330Ci ZHP. At one dealer I went immediately from a 2018 M240i to a 2016 M235 and the thing I noticed the most was that the interior of the refreshed model was much MUCH nicer. The Nav system in the 2018 refresh looked to be a pretty big improvement as well with a bigger screen, better resolution, CarPlay etc. I think they put a lot of effort into the interior for the refresh as they are wanting silly Americans to pay $50K for their economy car.

But that's not what you care about as much as handling, right? My main issue with any of the new models is that I hate, hate, HATE the electronic steering. When my 330Ci was in the shop for a week (which happens a lot of late) I had a 440i for a few days and I audibly sighed with relief when getting back into my own car I hated the steering so much.

It may have been in my head, but the M240 did have a ever so slightly better steering feel than the M235 and quite perceptibly better than the 440i I tested. I honestly think that the steering on my E46 is still better, but the M240 was the first of the new BMWs I thought I could handle. I haven't gotten to drive a M2 yet, but had a M4 for a week and found the steering better than the 440, but it still felt way too heavy.

With the sales guy sitting next to me and being stuck in I80 traffic anyway, I never really got to open up the engine on either the M235 or M240 to get a feel for which engine might be better.

So that's my takeaway comparing the M235 and M240: much nicer interior / Nav system, slightly better steering, engine felt about the same but never pushed it.

If you don't care that much about interior / Nav, maybe you'd get more bang for your buck to add some performance mods to your M235.
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The only interior change to the M240 is the dashboard. The door cards, steering wheel, seats, center console, and the HVAC and audio central controls are the same. The M235 and M240 have the same suspension and steering rack.
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The only interior change to the M240 is the dashboard. The door cards, steering wheel, seats, center console, and the HVAC and audio central controls are the same. The M235 and M240 have the same suspension and steering rack.
The M235 may have been older then, I do recall the interior was significantly less nice.
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Spend $2k to CPO yours and keep it. Depreciating assets are just that, no need to double down on the hit for so similar a car.
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The M235 may have been older then, I do recall the interior was significantly less nice.
No change to interior since 2014 introduction (apart from what was noted above).
You may have been looking at a Chevy.
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Unless it has something you need that your current car doesn't ie xDrive or you want to switch from manual to automatic etc. def not worth the hit you'll take. Spend $2k to CPO yours and keep it. Depreciating assets are just that, no need to double down on the hit for so similar a car.
How does a dealer allow you to CPO a vehicle that is not backed by their manufacture's extended warranty or which they are not selling on their lot? To me, "CPO" -ing a personally own car is just a glorified dealer inspection with option to buy a forced third party extended warranty, since you already paid for the inspection. Please explain, Google didn't help.
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Go to your local BMW dealership and check one out in person. Nothing like an A/B comparison. I like the new wheels on the 2018, LED lights, new dash and B58. I have test driven a couple of 235's and 240's, I didn't notice any difference in steering feel. Keep in mind that tire's are a huge factor in that dept.
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How does a dealer allow you to CPO a vehicle that is not backed by their manufacture's extended warranty or which they are not selling on their lot? To me, "CPO" -ing a personally own car is just a glorified dealer inspection with option to buy a forced third party extended warranty, since you already paid for the inspection. Please explain, Google didn't help.
Its not just a glorified dealer inspection, the Certification Program is something that is handled by BMW NA, requires a vehicle inspection, and comes with a CPO warranty.

Typically a dealer will Certify a car they plan on selling that is close to the original warranty expiring. However, if you already own the car, you don't technically need to get the car CPOd, you can just buy the gold warranty from BMW, which is the same coverage as CPO.

They started offering two versions of the CPO warranty these days, one is 2year/50k mile and the other is 1 year 25k mile I think. Gold and CPO elite? or something are a total of 6year/100k miles from vehicle purchase (so total additive time, if your car was originally purchased in 2014, the CPO would bring it up to 2020).

And the last one is Platinum warranty which is 7yr/100k miles I think. Also covers electronics inside the car (which CPO and gold do not).

edit: Also these are not third party warranties, these are offered by BMWNA, and while sold by the dealers financial department, these are BMW NA offered warranties. Make sure you are clarifying this with wherever you are purchasing.
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The M235 may have been older then, I do recall the interior was significantly less nice.
I disagree. They replaced plastics with black-piano trim in M240. This kind of trim will look all scratchy and gross within a month. M235i doesn't have this problem. I suggest getting some quality polymer coating to protect black-piano trim.
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The M235 may have been older then, I do recall the interior was significantly less nice.
I disagree. They replaced plastics with black-piano trim in M240. This kind of trim will look all scratchy and gross within a month. M235i doesn't have this problem. I suggest getting some quality polymer coating to protect black-piano trim.
I've had black gloss trim for a year and a half - replaced my brushed aluminum - and it still looks brand new. Doesn't have a scratch on it.
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Thank for the info! Do you know if the BMW extended warranty (Gold, platinum, ect) after the 4/50,000 miles expires is backed by BMW NA or is it a third party company with BMW slapping their name on it?

Reason I asked is because in my younger days, I bought a CPO Acura RSX with "AcuraCare" extended warranty, which I foolishly assumed it was an extension of the remainder of the 4/50,000 factory warranty.

I had a rude awakening after the transmission broke; Acura/Honda US does not care or offer assistance (or complaints) after the factory warranty expires, even if it was purchased under their well pushed CPO program. They wipe their hands clean and just direct you to AcuraCare, which was backed by a crappy third party non-Acura 'insurance' company, that denied every claim they possible could. Since they were not really affiliated or cared if I bought another Acura, they couldn't care less about my satisfaction.

I am assuming here that BMW CPO or extended warranty, after the factory expires, is the same case, unless anyone could prove otherwise.
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Thank for the info! Do you know if the BMW extended warranty (Gold, platinum, ect) after the 4/50,000 miles expires is backed by BMW NA or is it a third party company with BMW slapping their name on it?

Reason I asked is because in my younger days, I bought a CPO Acura RSX with "AcuraCare" extended warranty, which I foolishly assumed it was an extension of the remainder of the 4/50,000 factory warranty.

I had a rude awakening after the transmission broke; Acura/Honda US does not care or offer assistance (or complaints) after the factory warranty expires, even if it was purchased under their well pushed CPO program. They wipe their hands clean and just direct you to AcuraCare, which was backed by a crappy third party non-Acura 'insurance' company, that denied every claim they possible could. Since they were not really affiliated or cared if I bought another Acura, they couldn't care less about my satisfaction.

I am assuming here that BMW CPO or extended warranty, after the factory expires, is the same case, unless anyone could prove otherwise.
It is a BMW backed warranty, CPO, Gold, Platinum are what BMW financial services offers, along with extended maintenance plans.
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Thank for the info! Do you know if the BMW extended warranty (Gold, platinum, ect) after the 4/50,000 miles expires is backed by BMW NA or is it a third party company with BMW slapping their name on it?

Reason I asked is because in my younger days, I bought a CPO Acura RSX with "AcuraCare" extended warranty, which I foolishly assumed it was an extension of the remainder of the 4/50,000 factory warranty.

I had a rude awakening after the transmission broke; Acura/Honda US does not care or offer assistance (or complaints) after the factory warranty expires, even if it was purchased under their well pushed CPO program. They wipe their hands clean and just direct you to AcuraCare, which was backed by a crappy third party non-Acura 'insurance' company, that denied every claim they possible could. Since they were not really affiliated or cared if I bought another Acura, they couldn't care less about my satisfaction.

I am assuming here that BMW CPO or extended warranty, after the factory expires, is the same case, unless anyone could prove otherwise.
It is a BMW backed warranty, CPO, Gold, Platinum are what BMW financial services offers, along with extended maintenance plans.
Plus if you finance w bmw and extend the maint plan they reduce the interest rate, a point if memory serves.
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Plus if you finance w bmw and extend the maint plan they reduce the interest rate, a point if memory serves.
I believe so, not to mention typically the best time to negotiate the maintenance plans and extended warranty is when you are buying the car. You can package it all up for a bit cheaper than if you are just trying to buy the warranty or maintenance on its own.
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Well this thread got jacked quickly...
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OP, this sounds like a great way to lose a lot of money.
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The only interior change to the M240 is the dashboard. The door cards, steering wheel, seats, center console, and the HVAC and audio central controls are the same. The M235 and M240 have the same suspension and steering rack.
But the rack is electronically “controller.” That means the software for the M240i rack could be an upgrade from the M235i software.
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But the rack is electronically “controller.” That means the software for the M240i rack could be an upgrade from the M235i software.
Same steering ratios though. I suppose they could increase/reduce steering weight, but that's about it.
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