[bimmerfile]

Originally Posted by rainfall

370 lbft of torque is a looooot (is that 40+ from today?).
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Although factory rated torque is only 330 ft/lb on the M235i, Dinan concluded that the actual measured torque is 379 ft/lb. (see chart below):

[rainfall]

Nice. Is that factory torque or tuned? I think 330 ft lb is already a lot. If only my local dealer was willing to give me a discount this year's model... I'm not willing to pay full price for something that will take a hit.
Oh well... I'm debating between a Golf R or just wait for the M240i.

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Although factory rated torque is only 330 ft/lb on the M235i, Dinan concluded that the actual measured torque is 379 ft/lb. (see chart below):

[bimmerfile]

Originally Posted by rainfall

Nice. Is that factory torque or tuned? I think 330 ft lb is already a lot. If only my local dealer was willing to give me a discount this year's model... I'm not willing to pay full price for something that will take a hit.
Oh well... I'm debating between a Golf R or just wait for the M240i.

The actual measured 379 ft/lb by Dinan was factory stock M235i.
Dinan's stage 1 tune will take peak torque to a max of 430 ft/lb. (peak HP goes to 364 HP).

[Dethsupp0rt]

Originally Posted by rainfall

I'm debating between a Golf R or just wait for the M240i.

Why no S3? Also, the new RS3 sedan should be available in the States in a year or so. That thing will be sick.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

Why no S3? Also, the new RS3 sedan should be available in the States in a year or so. That thing will be sick.

Rs3 will be here August 2017.

[TankerJoe]

M240: clever marketing in order to draw off those who will want Xdrive and/or convertible on the M2, but who won't get it.
But, I still have heartburn with offering Xdrive without the MT6 as an option.

[boostm3]

Originally Posted by bimmerfile

Although factory rated torque is only 330 ft/lb on the M235i, Dinan concluded that the actual measured torque is 379 ft/lb. (see chart below):

Yikes.... So, does that mean that the M240i will really have 379+39 = 418 ft lbs?

[boypaulkim]

so if BMW is taking orders from July, does that mean i can order one in July at my local dealer as well?.

if so, how long does it normally take to actually get to drive the car after ordering?

[doccyber]

Originally Posted by rainfall

Because AMERICA lol

The same thing happens with the Golf MK7. In Europe there are slower versions, but here we get the 1.8T and up. It is less options for sure, but this helps keep the cost down for these higher end models. The dealers spend less money in lot space, inventory, marketing, etc.

It's not all bad to have fewer options.

Yes I understand but we do have the 320i here so why not the 220i?

[JP Medina]

Originally Posted by doccyber

Yes I understand but we do have the 320i here so why not the 220i?

In Mexico we don´t have the 228, it is 220, M235 (son M240) or M2.
The 220 is just what I needed, tho

[rainfall]

Originally Posted by doccyber

Yes I understand but we do have the 320i here so why not the 220i?

I think americans in general don't like smaller-ish cars (although the 2 series is a medium size for me already).
Take a look at cars.com on used BMWs. You'll see a ton of 3 series and like some 2 series. There is not a lot of people who appreciate that kind of car here.
I think that's unfortunate, because for my taste, the 3/4 series are too big and I wish I could get a smaller 4-door RWD bmw (no 2016 M135i here).

For ppl who don't need the power (or size), it would make total sense to get a 220i. It is what it is... maybe in a few years, when americans are less in need of boat-sized cars lol

[phoenixbmwlife]

Those of you asking why BMW make an M2 when the 240i power is so close to it? The answer is simple. The 235i power is far away enough to distinguish the M2 apart from it. And the LCI M2 will do the same for the 240i in a couple of years.

[ABPReader]

First videos of the M240i ?

Sound :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq3a0PSb2Z4 (In case the video doesn't work)


M235i "vs" M240i. It seems that the camera is in the M240i.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaueSSDCMF8

[jamiey]

Thanks. First Video works, but the second is marked "private"...

Edit - Ignore me I found it...

*thumbs up*

[hector]

Originally Posted by rainfall

I think americans in general don't like smaller-ish cars (although the 2 series is a medium size for me already).
Take a look at cars.com on used BMWs. You'll see a ton of 3 series and like some 2 series. There is not a lot of people who appreciate that kind of car here.
I think that's unfortunate, because for my taste, the 3/4 series are too big and I wish I could get a smaller 4-door RWD bmw (no 2016 M135i here).
...

totally agree about Americans preferences and I also prefer a 2 series size car. what baffles me is that Americans loved the E30, E36, E46 and so on including even earlier smaller models! Are all of those people now deceased and if so where are their decendants?

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by hector

totally agree about Americans preferences and I also prefer a 2 series size car. what baffles me is that Americans loved the E30, E36, E46 and so on including even earlier smaller models! Are all of those people now deceased and if so where are their decendants?

It's the "new normal" problem. Every year, auto manufacturers look for ways to draw in new customers. "Now with more interior room" is a major selling point in the mass market. How does one deliver "more interior room" year after year, after year, after year?

This process occurs slowly, but surely, and consumer preferences evolve to match. What used to be considered a large car is now the "new normal", because no car manufacturer can risk consumers hearing the argument that their competitor's offering has "3 inches more leg room", or "6 cubic feet more trunk space."

[marcva]

Originally Posted by hector

totally agree about Americans preferences and I also prefer a 2 series size car. what baffles me is that Americans loved the E30, E36, E46 and so on including even earlier smaller models! Are all of those people now deceased and if so where are their decendants?

Still here. Still waiting for an update to my four door e36. There is a group of us, I believe...

[hector]

Originally Posted by marcva

Still here...

every day above ground is a good one! lol

[hector]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

...

This process occurs slowly, but surely, and consumer preferences evolve to match... more trunk space."

proud to say that I have not "evolved", but then neither did my ancestors

[marcva]

Originally Posted by hector

every day above ground is a good one! lol

moreso as an E36 owner...not that I'm alive.

[rainfall]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

It's the "new normal" problem. Every year, auto manufacturers look for ways to draw in new customers. "Now with more interior room" is a major selling point in the mass market. How does one deliver "more interior room" year after year, after year, after year?

This process occurs slowly, but surely, and consumer preferences evolve to match. What used to be considered a large car is now the "new normal", because no car manufacturer can risk consumers hearing the argument that their competitor's offering has "3 inches more leg room", or "6 cubic feet more trunk space."

Yep, I agree that is a slippery slope. Fortunately they created the new 2 series to fill the gap they left behind. I hope they keep it this size and not increase 2 inches every other year!

[hector]

Originally Posted by rainfall

... Fortunately they created the new 2 series to fill the gap they left behind..

true, but unfortunately we only get 2 door variants, as a previous poster alluded to.