M235i top speed - is it really limited ?

mikkemille · 04-14-2014, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MTP335

It states that a governor is set according to tire selection?

My info came from BMW genius, the number is on BMWUSA's site.

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Originally Posted by golf4501

process of elimination. run flats= all season=lower speed limiter. There are only 2 options for tires:

Summer (w/ higher speed limiter)
All-seasons (e.g. run flats/lower speed limiter)

The only exception is the poster who somehow got Bridgestone Summer RFT. Who knows what he got for speed limiter (one way to find out though

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I have an ordering guide dated 12/10/2013, and there are 3 choices for M235i tires.
2PG (standard) - these are the PSS
2TR (optional) - all seasons
258 (optional) - runflats

2PG requires ordering 840 (increased top speed)
2TR deletes 840
The guide doesn't specify what effect 258 has on top speed. Maybe this is how that guy wound up with the Bridgestone RFT's.

Lucky13 · 04-14-2014, 09:16 PM

Again, run flats don't limit your speed the all season tires do. Every BMW M Sport sold has run flats most with summer performance and rated up to 150+. The only model other than true M's with non run flats are the M235 so there is no reason the run flat summer performance M235 would be limited to 130.

John Morgan Evans · 04-15-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ManCityFan

suspect you'd hit drag limits well before 180.

Without mods you definitely would be limited by drag, I suppose 165 might be the fastest it could go. Given all bolt ons though I suspect 180 is within reach.

mvallido · 01-04-2015, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MTP335

Where are you getting this info from?

When I called BMW Genius, and they said all M235i are limited at 155 regardless of Tires.

Does it mean that when you ordered the car with option 840 - Increased top speed limiter that it is set at 155 regardless?

vladberca · 01-04-2015, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mvallido

Does it mean that when you ordered the car with option 840 - Increased top speed limiter that it is set at 155 regardless?

155 is the 2nd top speed limit. Same as in Europe. Where do you'll reach that speed?

mvallido · 01-04-2015, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vladberca

155 is the 2nd top speed limit. Same as in Europe. Where do you'll reach that speed?

I don't know if that is even possible using the outer track at Bahrain International Circuit (2.2 miles straight line) or if I can even drive that fast.

tccox · 01-04-2015, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by golf4501

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Originally Posted by MTP335

It's very misleading.

But it still says nothing about run-flats getting a decreased limiter.

process of elimination. run flats= all season=lower speed limiter. There are only 2 options for tires:

Summer (w/ higher speed limiter)
All-seasons (e.g. run flats/lower speed limiter)

The only exception is the poster who somehow got Bridgestone Summer RFT. Who knows what he got for speed limiter (one way to find out though

)

Because he has a 228 Msport, non track package like mine. Bridgestone summer high performance run flats and the 155 top speed

iamdabest1 · 01-04-2015, 09:22 AM

You guys are funny , clearly there's only one way to find out , and you don't attempt to hit 150mph then it probably doesn't even matter ! 130mph is plenty in usa ... U can't hit that speed anywhere without getting arrested

wjones14 · 01-04-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by iamdabest1

You guys are funny , clearly there's only one way to find out , and you don't attempt to hit 150mph then it probably doesn't even matter ! 130mph is plenty in usa ... U can't hit that speed anywhere without getting arrested

Actually you can hit that speed in the USA without getting arrested. Track day events. I was over 130 mph at Watkins Glen in NY with my Mustang, and an E92 M3 hit 140 there. No arrests.

Demetrius Joel · 01-04-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky13

Again, run flats don't limit your speed the all season tires do. Every BMW M Sport sold has run flats most with summer performance and rated up to 150+. The only model other than true M's with non run flats are the M235 so there is no reason the run flat summer performance M235 would be limited to 130.

What he said.

M235ixDriveMP · 01-04-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by golf4501

It's clearly stated on the web site and the original build documents I got.

But of course, so was a 600 watt 16 speaker HK stereo, and touchless trunk release....

either the BMW web site or salesman didn't tell me anything about the Remove Increased Top Speed 840, but lucky I read all build documents before put my signature on the paper

iamdabest1 · 01-04-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wjones14

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Originally Posted by iamdabest1

You guys are funny , clearly there's only one way to find out , and you don't attempt to hit 150mph then it probably doesn't even matter ! 130mph is plenty in usa ... U can't hit that speed anywhere without getting arrested

Actually you can hit that speed in the USA without getting arrested. Track day events. I was over 130 mph at Watkins Glen in NY with my Mustang, and an E92 M3 hit 140 there. No arrests.

I meant for the people not tracking their cars .. 130 is plenty
I've hit 125 on my m3 on the LIE and I was scared as hell not to get caught ..

mvallido · 01-04-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iamdabest1

I meant for the people not tracking their cars .. 130 is plenty
I've hit 125 on my m3 on the LIE and I was scared as hell not to get caught ..

Now you're funny. Why would you do a stupid thing like that.

Demetrius Joel · 01-04-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mvallido

Now you're funny. Why would you do a stupid thing like that.

I know right. I lived in Germany for four years and absolutely miss driving on the autobahn. Driving in America scares the crap outa me. I miss driving fast.

2msport · 01-04-2015, 04:31 PM

Wow you guys spread some really incorrect things. I have a 228 msport with runflats. My car is governed to 155. As far as I remember when I did a ton of research and reading back in April.. All season tires on the 228 or 235 will get you governed to 130. Otherwise all msport BMWs have 150+. And no you can not change it later. Someone delete page one of this thread. It's a waste

Jasond13 · 01-04-2015, 05:33 PM

I started another thread asking if anyone has a fix for this , because yes my car has all season run flats and gets to 127mph and goes no more. It will suck at the track because it gets there in a hurry. I wish my dealer would have brought this to my attention, because originaly I wanted the MPSS and told him this but I still ended up with all seasons

Hopefully someone will come up with a fix for this.

pikcachu · 01-04-2015, 06:14 PM

most tunes used to override the speed limiter... maybe they will have something like that eventually

Mike@BMWMTKISCO · 01-04-2015, 08:06 PM

I can definitely confirm that with the all season tires, the M235i is limited to 130mph. With the summer tires, the car does not have the limiter and will do 155

pikcachu · 01-04-2015, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@BMWMTKISCO

I can definitely confirm that with the all season tires, the M235i is limited to 130mph. With the summer tires, the car does not have the limiter and will do 155

It still does have the limiter... it's just that is set to 155 instead of 130

kd0t · 01-06-2015, 12:27 AM

Does this mean I'm limited?

pikcachu · 01-06-2015, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kd0t

Does this mean I'm limited?

Yes, (130mph) cause you have All season tires

krhodes1 · 01-06-2015, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky13

M Sport on 228 gets you summer performance run flats not all season unless you want all season. I do not believe that the summer performance run flats are limited to 130. I had my E93 335 up to 141 with Bridgestone Summer Performance run flats the original factory tires and I doubt my speedometer was off 11 mph.

It almost certainly is off that much, unless you have coded it to read uncorrected. BMW intentionally makes the speedo read high. On my '11 328i, a GPS indicated 130 was showing just about 140 on the speedometer. And that is the limiter, as I don't have the sport package. Note it is only the speedometer, the odometer is spot on. The limiter is dead on 130 too. Very precise, those Germans, when they want to be.

I have mine coded to show actual speed in the OBC.

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Lucky13 Lucky13 211 Rep 1,762 Posts Drives: 2014 M235 manual, 2020 X3 30X Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbia, S.C. iTrader: (0)	Again, run flats don't limit your speed the all season tires do. Every BMW M Sport sold has run flats most with summer performance and rated up to 150+. The only model other than true M's with non run flats are the M235 so there is no reason the run flat summer performance M235 would be limited to 130. __________________ 1995 325i, 1996 328ci, 1997 528i, 1997 Z3 2.8, 2000 528i, 2001 X5 3.0, 2001 330i Convertible, 2002 M3 Convertible, 2003 M3 Coupe, 2004 M3 Coupe, 2004 Z4 3.0, 2004 X3 3.0, 2007 X3 3.0, 2007 335i Convertible, 2013 X1 28 sdrive, 2014 M235 manual, 2020 X3 30i Xdrive
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2msport Captain 204 Rep 757 Posts Drives: '14 228 MT Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Wow you guys spread some really incorrect things. I have a 228 msport with runflats. My car is governed to 155. As far as I remember when I did a ton of research and reading back in April.. All season tires on the 228 or 235 will get you governed to 130. Otherwise all msport BMWs have 150+. And no you can not change it later. Someone delete page one of this thread. It's a waste Last edited by 2msport; 01-04-2015 at 04:36 PM..
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Jasond13 Banned 39 Rep 137 Posts Drives: Man Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Philippines iTrader: (0)	I started another thread asking if anyone has a fix for this , because yes my car has all season run flats and gets to 127mph and goes no more. It will suck at the track because it gets there in a hurry. I wish my dealer would have brought this to my attention, because originaly I wanted the MPSS and told him this but I still ended up with all seasons Hopefully someone will come up with a fix for this.
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Mike@BMWMTKISCO New Member 0 Rep 20 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Westchester County, NY iTrader: (0)	I can definitely confirm that with the all season tires, the M235i is limited to 130mph. With the summer tires, the car does not have the limiter and will do 155 __________________ Former BMW Genius.. Current Client Advisor at BMW Mt Kisco in Westchester County, New York 2014 M235i (Mineral Grey on Coral Red) 2015 X5 35i M Sport (Black Sapphire on Terra)
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kd0t Banned 137 Rep 627 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Does this mean I'm limited?
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