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Pretty much true in most of the entry level cars w/ leather. My C7 had top stitched leather, which looked great, but the car smelled like "Liquid Nails", when I bought it. My M240i did not have a true leather smell either. It wasn't as noxious as the C7, but had a artificial processed smell for lack of a better description (thankfully not overpowering like the C7). Nothing like the smell of a new fine leather jacket or gloves. I suppose there is a trade off when it comes to leather interiors. The more expensive stuff is a better grade and may actually be real tanned hides, dyed, cut and fitted to the car (rather than the shaved, processed and stamped stuff like Dakota). The downside to real good quality leather is its wear. The stuff shows creases and folds over time and will stain pretty readily. There is a much higher maintenance level required w/ the better leather and generally looks pretty used after a few years. Also, if a driver is a bit on the heavy side, the sliding in and out of the car will turn the outside bolster to "suede" over time. The "used" look is IMO a plus and a minus. For those that understand leather, see the folds and creases as broken in, while other see it as just "used". Dakota will likely look new after 3-4 years, but so will the Sensatec (and save about $1500 on the cost of the car). I'd rather use that saved money for something more useful in the car. On a 440i, the difference can buy you a HUD, and a power sunshade, or for a few $ more, the HUD and Wireless charging w/ hot spot. Compare the Dakota to the Napa or Merino and see the difference, then the Dakota to the Sensatec. Dakota and Sensatec are closer than Dakota is to Napa or Merino. I think Napa is Cow while Merino is Lamb. Dunno for sure. There is Cowhide, Calf hide, Lamb (kid leather). http://blogs.youwheel.com/2015/05/03...her-explained/ |
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10-23-2017, 10:46 AM | #68 |
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That old-style quality leather would certainly be a worthy addition, and I was disappointed that the options were so different. I was originally set to get leather, thinking that was what it would be like, 'real leather' like I'd experienced in old Jags and Merc's - furniture/jacket quality. I'd probably be hating the wear by now, but THAT would be worth something; The Dakota that they offer seems almost as fake as the sensatec, but a lot more slippery/shiny.
For those who want the smell, Griots sells interior scents that include 'leather upholstery' - haven't tried it, but supposedly it is quite realistic. |
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My first "mod" (after de-badging, of course) will be to add a small bag of roasted coffee beans under one of my Sensatec front seats. It's harder to lament the lack of leather smell when there's something equally evocative to be whiffed.
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You guys are talking about new car odors. The C6 and C7 Corvettes are just about as bad as it gets LOL Once the new car smell disappears, the Dakota leather does have a leather smell. I also don't understand the "slippery" observations regarding Dakota leather either. Mine is quite grippy for leather. I certainly don't slide around in it, that's for sure.
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If you still have a chance and you find a relatively new Gen V Viper with the Laguna leather interior, smell it. One of the most amazing old school buttery leather smells out there. Some of the other hand built cars still have the old way of processing leathers but it seems that the whole industry has gone toward the newer way of processing leathers. IMO, current BMWs have more of that "liquid nails" smell compared to a few years back, but not as bad as the C7 as you mentioned.
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The discussion about seating material made me start to wonder if either plasticized leather or Sensatec might cause less interior off-gassing than the other. Also wondering how badly a BMW will off-gas, generally speaking, compared to other brands. While I don't like the thought of breathing plastic vapors, mostly I don't like cleaning the smeary gunk off of interior windows.
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Since we are on the topic of "interior smell", has anyone tried this:
https://www.amazon.com/Smartwax-3010.../dp/B0028SHNMU Have a friend who has a new 2017 C7 Grand Sport and also complained about the interior smell until he used the product listed above.
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Wireless phone charging, so I could get Apple CarPlay. Other than that, nothing.
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I wish I would have gotten the inductive phone charger.
I've owned a 2002, 328is, 330ic and a 335ic. This 240i x is my first automatic and first all wheel drive. I LOVE it-I did install Dinan's Elite tune. The 2 wheel drive is slower, particularly with the stick and doesn't go around corners as well as the xDrive in the wet or dry (I have staggered summer tires as well as snow tires). I resisted automatics and all wheel drive like many of you as stick is more engaging and it's fun to hang the ass end out but am gradually going over to the dark side for performance' sake. If you want noise and drama buy a 'Vette (I'd love one for weekends!). Also, I love the Harmon Kardon sound system. For me, the discreet hyper performance and luxury my car provides me meets more of my every day wants and needs than any other car I can afford. Last edited by junior1954; 11-13-2017 at 12:39 PM.. |
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