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      07-23-2013, 12:55 PM   #45
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This calls the M2 into question.

If the line up really is M235, 435+PPK+LSD, M4. And there is no M2,... then,... the M4 and M3 better be 'bastards' - with a harder performance edge and aggressive styling. Like my 1M.

The hook that got me on the 1M was the spy shots of the ridiculous fender flares and oversized wheels/brakes. Once I saw those I know function was trumping form - and that the 1M would be fun. I yearn for BMW to continue the lesson they hopefully learned.
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      07-23-2013, 12:55 PM   #46
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The M235i and M2 will hands down be the *THE* enthusiast's cars of choice in the BMW lineup.
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      07-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #47
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1M uses on stock only half cars whole potential performance(hierarchy between models), remember how insane time 1M AC Schnitzer make on Sachsenring, whit only 400hp. Thanks to M3 wide track and small body.

- faster than 997 GT3 and M3 GTS
- 1.0 sec slower than Lambo Aventador
- 1.5 sec slower than Ferrari 458
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      07-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #48
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The M235i and M2 will hands down be the *THE* enthusiast's cars of choice in the BMW lineup.

Yup. Further proof that the 3 series has evolved (read: bloated) into a 5 series = cushy family sedan, and the 1/2 series have become the new 3 = enthusiasts choice.


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      07-23-2013, 01:03 PM   #49
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This is great to hear! I'm guessing mid 40's?
Maybe when this car is available 1Ms will be in a decent price range.
Sorry to go off-topic, but where's the gif in your signature from?
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      07-23-2013, 01:07 PM   #50
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The M2 will be very fast then and that's the only car from BMW that i care about. Pretty interesting news.
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      07-23-2013, 01:08 PM   #51
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It sounds like LSD is available as a M-Sports Performance package option so it's not standard. They're doing that with the 4-series too.
This. Sounds like part of a kit. This is all very cool news though. I'm keeping my E90 M3 for about 5 more years but after that the M2 will be very high on my list.
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      07-23-2013, 01:21 PM   #52
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1M uses on stock only half cars whole potential performance(hierarchy between models), remember how insane time 1M AC Schnitzer make on Sachsenring, whit only 400hp. Thanks to M3 wide track and small body.

- faster than 997 GT3 and M3 GTS
- 1.0 sec slower than Lambo Aventador
- 1.5 sec slower than Ferrari 458
No need to compete with a car that doesn't technically exist yet. Relax, 1M owners who keep track of lap times.
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      07-23-2013, 01:39 PM   #54
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Very, very nice. I'm interested in the m235i/M2 Veloster-esque shooting brake which I really hope BMW makes.
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      07-23-2013, 01:46 PM   #55
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Sorry to go off-topic, but where's the gif in your signature from?
I was searching for something funny and it made me laugh every time I watch it. Don't really know it's origin though, sorry.
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This. Sounds like part of a kit. This is all very cool news though. I'm keeping my E90 M3 for about 5 more years but after that the M2 will be very high on my list.
A M235i has an optional M Sports Performance kit. Good stuff BMW, good stuff.
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      07-23-2013, 02:06 PM   #57
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This is going to be one hell of a little sports car! Looking great
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      07-23-2013, 02:09 PM   #58
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This. Sounds like part of a kit. This is all very cool news though. I'm keeping my E90 M3 for about 5 more years but after that the M2 will be very high on my list.
A M235i has an optional M Sports Performance kit. Good stuff BMW, good stuff.
That's awesome !! And yet it's not really an M !!!!
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      07-23-2013, 02:14 PM   #59
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Well this is some interesting news and certainly complicates any future car decisions on my part.

Do I:

- Keep the 135 and add a used Z4 M Coupe to the stable

- Eventually sell the 135 and pick up a M235 on Euro Delivery

- Hope that used 1M's may appear on the market for reasonable prices when the M235 arrives

Then there is always the thought of an M2...
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      07-23-2013, 02:38 PM   #60
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The M235i and M2 will hands down be the *THE* enthusiast's cars of choice in the BMW lineup.
Wow, I was waiting for the 4 Series Coupe, but regardless that is nice, I think it is too big.
I was considering an 1M to buy but this is a game changer, the 1M owners are asking too much for their cars and is kinda small for me.
I do believe that if the dimensions will be similar with E46, the new 2 series will be THE ENTHUSIAST car.
And if the design is right and the car will be with a proper LSD, then, one will be mine as well.

Two questions:
1. Will they offer an INDIVIDUAL program for the 2 series?
2. Are there any plans for a hot hatch?
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      07-23-2013, 02:57 PM   #62
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Well this is some interesting news and certainly complicates any future car decisions on my part.

Do I:

- Keep the 135

- Eventually sell the 135 and pick up a M235 on Euro Delivery

- Hope that used 1M's may appear on the market for reasonable prices when the M235 arrives

Then there is always the thought of an M2...
My thoughts exactly
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      07-23-2013, 03:13 PM   #63
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Beyond excited for this.
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      07-23-2013, 03:14 PM   #64
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If the M2 has a 4 in it then its a no go for me. My 6 in my 1M doesn't rev high enough for my tastes.
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      07-23-2013, 03:30 PM   #65
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Can't wait for this!
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      07-23-2013, 03:32 PM   #66
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