[GrimJaw]

Does anyone have a mineral white m235i with smoked or clear front reflectors ?

Pics would be appreciated I'm trying to make a decision on which would suit mine.

Thanks in advance!

[VIN240i13]

Originally Posted by GrimJaw

Does anyone have a mineral white m235i with smoked or clear front reflectors ?

Pics would be appreciated I'm trying to make a decision on which would suit mine.

Thanks in advance!

If you "google" this exact phrase "white m235i with smoked or clear front reflectors"
You will get plenty of pics with both options...

[GrimJaw]

Originally Posted by VIN240i13

If you "google" this exact phrase "white m235i with smoked or clear front reflectors"
You will get plenty of pics with both options...

I tried that already. Mostly clear ones only no smoked. Hence why I'm here :/. Plus a fully body picture would really help me decide rather than up close. Thanks though.

[RoundelM3]

A third alternative is body-color reflectors. Did that to my 335i and the wife's 228i.

[Marmugmotleocay]

I tried the smoked versions but I switched out to the IND F/R painted. I think the painted look the best.

[orangeglim]

I think the painted look works great. I have them on my gray M235.
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=963270

[BEM-S4]

+1 for painted

[GrimJaw]

I would honestly do painted, but won't that affect safety? I figured the smoked/clears still reflect light? Thoughts on this?

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by GrimJaw

I would honestly do painted, but won't that affect safety? I figured the smoked/clears still reflect light? Thoughts on this?

I've been quiet because of prior flaming when I made a similar point. Having spent six years in a vehicle safety office at one of the global automobile manufacturers, I understand the burden of evidence needed before the GAO can support NHTSA adopting regulatory requirements such as side marker lights/reflectors. There are prior threads on this which are searchable, but the simple bottom line is, yes, painting/removing/covering them does increase risk of side impact. If you only drive a white or red car on sunny days, the risk is obviously lower, probably immeasureable.

If your personal calcuation is that a minor style improvement is worth that risk to you and whomever hits you one dark night (consider the 70+ year old intersecting driver with macular degeneration and it's raining, for example), the choices are available to be made. There is no clear dividing line for "safety"...it is always a matter of risk management and reduction. In this case, there was enough data to reach the conclusion that reflectors and lamps made a sufficient difference to require them of all manufacturers.

[GrimJaw]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

I've been quiet because of prior flaming when I made a similar point. Having spent six years in a vehicle safety office at one of the global automobile manufacturers, I understand the burden of evidence needed before the GAO can support NHTSA adopting regulatory requirements such as side marker lights/reflectors. There are prior threads on this which are searchable, but the simple bottom line is, yes, painting/removing/covering them does increase risk of side impact. If you only drive a white or red car on sunny days, the risk is obviously lower, probably immeasureable.

If your personal calcuation is that a minor style improvement is worth that risk to you and whomever hits you one dark night (consider the 70+ year old intersecting driver with macular degeneration and it's raining, for example), the choices are available to be made. There is no clear dividing line for "safety"...it is always a matter of risk management and reduction. In this case, there was enough data to reach the conclusion that reflectors and lamps made a sufficient difference to require them of all manufacturers.

Thank you.
This is why I'm definitely considering the smoked side markers instead of painted. My only concern is if light will still reflect decently off the smoked reflectors/condensation occurring in the smoked reflectors. I can't seem to find a video on light reflection testing with the smoked reflectors. I was hoping to get some input from users here. I have only seen one thread which talks about them and how they possibly gather condensation. If anyone has more input please feel free to share.

[Pauldunlop13]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

I've been quiet because of prior flaming when I made a similar point. Having spent six years in a vehicle safety office at one of the global automobile manufacturers, I understand the burden of evidence needed before the GAO can support NHTSA adopting regulatory requirements such as side marker lights/reflectors. There are prior threads on this which are searchable, but the simple bottom line is, yes, painting/removing/covering them does increase risk of side impact. If you only drive a white or red car on sunny days, the risk is obviously lower, probably immeasureable.

If your personal calcuation is that a minor style improvement is worth that risk to you and whomever hits you one dark night (consider the 70+ year old intersecting driver with macular degeneration and it's raining, for example), the choices are available to be made. There is no clear dividing line for "safety"...it is always a matter of risk management and reduction. In this case, there was enough data to reach the conclusion that reflectors and lamps made a sufficient difference to require them of all manufacturers.

This is why I bought black reflective vinyl to use on my Black car. Stealth look during the day. Reflective/bright at night. Same reason I have never blacked out my tailights. Though it looks cool, I want people to know when I am braking