[jmwilson125]

Right now I am FBO minus intercooler. I figured the next mods I was going to get would be upgraded ic and methanol injection.

If running 50/50 meth water is there much of a point to get an intercooler considering the dramatic cooling that the injection will have? I'm sure it would further help, but at that point are we talking law of diminishing returns for the money?

I plan on these being my final power mods.

[bryan_G01]

Get both.
FMIC are cheap enough, and meth lines and nozzles clog.

[Dylan86]

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

Get both.
FMIC are cheap enough, and meth lines and nozzles clog.

Agreed. FMIC, then meth

[jmwilson125]

Why not both?! Haha just ordered both, that must have been the quickest convincing ever.

[Dylan86]

What did you end up ordering? Just curious..

Both is definitely ideal, just if wanting to phase things I'd get the FMIC first as it's always cooling the incoming airflow to the engine, and the WMI only comes into play when the car is in boost. That's all, there's no right or wrong way

D

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

What did you end up ordering? Just curious..

Both is definitely ideal, just if wanting to phase things I'd get the FMIC first as it's always cooling the incoming airflow to the engine, and the WMI only comes into play when the car is in boost. That's all, there's no right or wrong way

D

I ended up going active Autowerks. Mike gave me a deal I couldn't turn down. If not for such a great deal I would have gone with vrsf HD street.

For a while I was thinking about going PS2 so I was going to go with vrsf race fmic, but I decide meth is all I need for power.

Think I'll start stashing money towards a faster base car instead of PS2 and fueling upgrades.

[amw896]

Oh man, I'm worried I will say the same thing once I go FBO.

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

I ended up going active Autowerks. Mike gave me a deal I couldn't turn down. If not for such a great deal I would have gone with vrsf HD street.

For a while I was thinking about going PS2 so I was going to go with vrsf race fmic, but I decide meth is all I need for power.

Think I'll start stashing money towards a faster base car instead of PS2 and fueling upgrades.

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by amw896

Oh man, I'm worried I will say the same thing once I go FBO.

Yeah right now I run map 7 with e85. It runs pretty well, but I know my hpfp is being stressed. On a good log I'll hit 17.5 psi and the car feels pretty beast. I think with meth I should be able to consistently get that feeling with less stress on the fuel pump. I think the car will def be fast enough for me with the meth until I am ready for the next car.

Transmission and internal components kinda have me worried with PS2. I know a lot of guy run this with no issue, but I'm still under warranty so I am playing with fire. Not sure I want to play with an inferno just yet.

I'll check back in once it's installed with summer tires on.

[amw896]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Yeah right now I run map 7 with e85. It runs pretty well, but I know my hpfp is being stressed. On a good log I'll hit 17.5 psi and the car feels pretty beast. I think with meth I should be able to consistently get that feeling with less stress on the fuel pump. I think the car will def be fast enough for me with the meth until I am ready for the next car.

Transmission and internal components kinda have me worried with PS2. I know a lot of guy run this with no issue, but I'm still under warranty so I am playing with fire. Not sure I want to play with an inferno just yet.

I'll check back in once it's installed with summer tires on.

you are probably in M4 territory already then! Man, I think my 235 is already pretty damn fast and I'm afraid once I start with bolt ons it will never end lol

[Tamim3]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Yeah right now I run map 7 with e85. It runs pretty well, but I know my hpfp is being stressed. On a good log I'll hit 17.5 psi and the car feels pretty beast. I think with meth I should be able to consistently get that feeling with less stress on the fuel pump. I think the car will def be fast enough for me with the meth until I am ready for the next car.

Transmission and internal components kinda have me worried with PS2. I know a lot of guy run this with no issue, but I'm still under warranty so I am playing with fire. Not sure I want to play with an inferno just yet.

I'll check back in once it's installed with summer tires on.

How much E85

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Yeah right now I run map 7 with e85. It runs pretty well, but I know my hpfp is being stressed. On a good log I'll hit 17.5 psi and the car feels pretty beast. I think with meth I should be able to consistently get that feeling with less stress on the fuel pump. I think the car will def be fast enough for me with the meth until I am ready for the next car.

Transmission and internal components kinda have me worried with PS2. I know a lot of guy run this with no issue, but I'm still under warranty so I am playing with fire. Not sure I want to play with an inferno just yet.

I'll check back in once it's installed with summer tires on.

It's a dangerous game. Haha that's what I though and look at me now. My hopes are to keep up with my buddies stock c7 or atleast be in the same ballpark

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Tamim3

How much E85

4+ gallons and 93 was maxing out the hpfp. 3.8 was getting me decent logs however my log value for hpfs dropped to 11 a couple times. I asked Steve with fuelit for some advice and he told me when hpfs drops below 11 you can get misfires.

Currently I am running 3.1 gallons. I haven't had a chance to log that yet though due to weather. You should check your own logs and get used to reading them if you don't already. Every car is different. I have read a few guys run 4+ gallons and are ok. Also depends on ewg vs pwg I think. Not to get too off topic.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

4+ gallons and 93 was maxing out the hpfp. 3.8 was getting me decent logs however my log value for hpfs dropped to 11 a couple times. I asked Steve with fuelit for some advice and he told me when hpfs drops below 11 you can get misfires.

Currently I am running 3.1 gallons. I haven't had a chance to log that yet though due to weather. You should check your own logs and get used to reading them if you don't already. Every car is different. I have read a few guys run 4+ gallons and are ok. Also depends on ewg vs pwg I think. Not to get too off topic.

Yep, I ran 4.5-5 gal in the summer (blends were better) but now in winter, have to run much lower due to lower blends.

I'll prob be getting this AEM Meth kit; popular/good/fair price https://www.eospeed.com/collections/...n-kits-30-3300

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Yep, I ran 4.5-5 gal in the summer (blends were better) but now in winter, have to run much lower due to lower blends.

I'll prob be getting this AEM Meth kit; popular/good/fair price https://www.eospeed.com/collections/...n-kits-30-3300

Just curious why not BMS for intergration.

And yeah I swear I was running closer to 4 in the summer with no issues.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Just curious why not BMS for intergration.

And yeah I swear I was running closer to 4 in the summer with no issues.

I'm on Bootmod3 Flash now & the AEM Meth kit has its own failsafe/controller; actually I know countless of M3/M5 guys running it on their car for over 2yrs now. And for me personally jb4 is another variable (unit/board) that i dont want to deal with; since personal friends have had bad luck with boards going bad, bluetooth kit dying, and just dealt with some bad support especially their firmware.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Right now I am FBO minus intercooler. I figured the next mods I was going to get would be upgraded ic and methanol injection.

If running 50/50 meth water is there much of a point to get an intercooler considering the dramatic cooling that the injection will have? I'm sure it would further help, but at that point are we talking law of diminishing returns for the money?

I plan on these being my final power mods.

Depends how hard you push your car .. Both will always be better

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Depends how hard you push your car .. Both will always be better

And that's what I went with. Thanks Mike you the man!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

And that's what I went with. Thanks Mike you the man!

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by bryan_f22

Get both.
FMIC are cheap enough, and meth lines and nozzles clog.

Why are meth lines and nozzles clogging so much in your experience or others?

I ran meth for years without ever experiencing either.

That being said, Meth systems do require attention and pro-active maintenance. I do agree if you are someone who is lazy or not wanting to go through with checking on everything here and there it's not a modification to do.

The gains on meth however will make a non meth car always feel slow.

[bryan_G01]

all depends on the mix you use, sometimes ppl use "homegrown" liquid which clog nozzles.

[jmwilson125]

Installed the intercooler and wmi kit last weekend! Except wmi kit isn't functioning properly. Any jb4/ wmi experts in the Boston area?

[SerenVoX]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Installed the intercooler and wmi kit last weekend! Except wmi kit isn't functioning properly. Any jb4/ wmi experts in the Boston area?

Keep us posted on how the meth turns out! Whats the current issue? Im interested in hearing first hand experience from install to how it performs to learn from you.

So i too am ready to add meth. Im FBO/JB4. My question tho is I am already pushing the limits of the stock turbo if I run Map7 and race gas(103) making 17-20psi.. Do I have room for meth or is just better to stick with buying race gas?